Definitely has his grip on reality, this one

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    oh no the unbeatable twitter “trust me bro” move. why has no one ever thought about his input??2?

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    Gee, I wonder what causes congestion in high speed lanes and roads? Too many fucking cars at the same time? Nah, it must be some communist subversion

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      It’s wild deer, there might not actually be any but just the idea of them makes people drive in a less efficient manner. It doesn’t help that the deer are communist.

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      I think it’s established fact that you can’t reduce congestions by adding more lanes and roads. Not because of bad road design but because the amount of cars will fill up those new lanes. So saying ‘cars cause congestions’ is pointing at the fact that regardless of how many roads or lanes we have the will be filled. Hence roads aren’t the problem, but cars are.

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        I think it’s established fact that you can’t reduce congestions by adding more lanes and roads.

        I mean, if it worked we would see the successes in all those giant freeway cities but instead the problem just grows.

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        If we just turn everything into road then nobody will have anywhere to go. It’s the perfect solution

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        Another reason it doesn’t reduce congestion is that lane changes are frequently the cause of accidents or hard braking, which creates traffic jams. And Americans’ complete lack of lane discipline just makes it all worse.

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        Actually, inadequate lanes do contribute to congestion. The traffic will always be pretty much standard… the time of transit however is slowed so it may seem like there are less cars… but no, it is less road. Also, the curvature of the roads – especially on on ramps can affect visibility of oncoming traffic and not providing for a properly lengthed merge lane is also a big problem. Some things that can help slow down (prevent speeding at merging areas/onramps) so it is easier to merge is having islands between the right and left lanes with greenery, more lights/slowdowns and providing a fast lane for carshares and buses. Building in service roads and bypasses also decreases the congestion.

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    Actually none of those cause congestion, not demolishing 1,000,000 of homes to add 100 lines to my commute route does :3

    /s

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    Y’all are both stupid. Society creates congestion in car-transportation and on-foot transportation. Mass transportation is just more efficient in certain societal configurations and needs. There will still be trucks and deliveries of all kinds and workers and shit that need to use cars for their jobs to be efficient.

    A lot of people could use mass transportation or try to reduce the distance they need to travel, but all of this petty back and forth is fucking stupid and worthless if it remains petty and shallow, and continues to avoid the real topic, which is not cars, which are just tools that allow an individual a range of autonomy that is faster and further in certain societal configurations.

    So, the issue should be societal configurations (and human values), not cars.

    Using cars is such an unproductive wedge issue that just irritates everybody who can see the bigger issues. It’s noble, but amounts to basically greenwash trolling to anybody outside of your community (fuckcars). It’s a hyperfixation on a ultra specific, single-solution to an ultra broad collection of societal efficiency and random other related topics that feels like some of you are just misplacing personal childhood trauma, and really need therapy, or you just enjoy being irritating, thus my belief that some of this really is just greentrolling, which, if you really wanted to fix stuff, there are better ways of doing it.

    To be absolutely transparent, I don’t entirely dislike y’all’s existence, in fact, I quite appreciate it in many ways. But, everytime I see one of your posts or memes, I just kinda… Tsk. And it irritates me a little bit, I can’t upvote it, and I think I’ve finally been able to put that irritation into words, and feel compelled to voice my opinion.

    So, opinion voiced, carry on /rant

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          Just one more lane bro. I promise bro just one more lane and it’ll fix everything bro. Bro, just one more lane. Please just one more, one more lane and we can fix this whole problem bro, bro c’mon just give me one more lane i promise bro, bro bro please! Just need one more lane

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        In the end the city will have to bulldoze the houses and offices that make up to the city to make room for more roads and cars, increasing costs and destroying their own tax revenue in the process, or realize less cars are the answer.

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          In addition to all the parking lots that the increased car traffic would require

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        Long story: short the city will eventually have to decide whether to put one last parking space or one last lane.

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        Man, I’m flashing back to my visit to Detroit and the massive ‘boulevard’ that cuts the city in two. The car I was riding in had to get on to what was basically a highway, change lanes a half dozen times, and exit via ramp in order to get from one neighborhood to another. (In the span of a quarter mile).

        It was eerie, but doable, because there weren’t many other cars on the road. I can only imagine how difficult it would have been when there was actually traffic.

        Roads can be walls as well as nooses.

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          When you have enough tarmac, you don’t even need lanes or lights, there’ll be space for everyone.

          Lanes are a commie plot to steal freedom anyway.

          It’s obvious from the picture that it is the buildings in the city that cause the congestion. get rid of em.

          I once got stuck behind someones house once, I politely honked three times and flashed my headlights , but it wouldn’t budge, so in the end i had no choice but to ram right through it. Fucking cities stealing all our open roads.

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        It probably just attempts to indicate it’s the same 3 cars again, likely pointing out the fact that there are legitimate reasons to drive, those people are just fucked by everyone else and brain-dead traffic planning.

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        It looks like the green cars have passengers, while the red cars have single occupants.

        Nevermind, some of the red cars have passengers, too. I guess the green cars survive to the final graphic… why that’s relevant, I don’t really understand.

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        I think it’s more for design language, you’re subconsciously drawn to the green vehicles because they’re different, and subconsciously when you’re looking at the traffic, you’re reminded what it’s like being in the traffic yourself.

        So you imagine yourself as the green car.

        1st scenario: traffic is really bad. 2nd scenario: they’ve added more lanes, but you, the green car, are still stuck. 3rd scenario: public transportation has alleviated the traffic and it’s better for all.

        Notice in the 3rd scenario, all the transportation is green. I think it’s to make you think, “I can ride my bike to work” or “I can take the bus” or “I can still drive my car if where I live requires me to” depending on your own situation. It’s to show all options can be viable, if you support public transportation.

        That’s how I see it at least.

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        I assumed that Green = Moving. The pedestrians in the city are green, as are the busses and bikes in the bottom diagram. The greens in the top two are there to show just how few vehicles can actually move at any given time.

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          I think red is just to show the effective capacity advantage of the bus lane once it appears in the final diagram.

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        You’re looking at what is obviously a conceptual diagram and acting as if it’s some kind of literal blueprint. IMO it’s something closer to a Sankey diagram showing the overall flow and moda share of traffic into the city than a plan sketch of an individual road. I don’t think it’s even reasonable to conclude that it’s actually suggesting using the same alignment for cars, bikes, and pedestrians at all, let alone strawmanning it as “a bike lane on a highway.”

        Frankly, I’m found it to be a tough call deciding whether you genuinely didn’t understand that or if you were commenting in bad faith (which violates rule 1), and the only thing that made me give you the benefit of the doubt was your later comment talking about the cement barrier (i.e. a somewhat constructive comment about how to make it better) instead of continuing to flatly reject it.

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          If you had looked at my replies to other people who replied to me, you would see I wasn’t antibike lanes in general. The diagram looks far closer to a city street than a highway.

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            If you had looked at my replies to other people who replied to me, you would see I wasn’t antibike lanes in general.

            I did, hence my reference to “your later comment talking about the cement barrier.”

            The diagram looks far closer to a city street than a highway.

            The right side of it does, sure, because that’s what it’s depicting the highway transitioning to.

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              I was referring to other comments. Ones the people I blocked could have checked before attacking me.

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                Nobody “attacked” you until you attacked them first. That’s why your comments were removed for being uncivil and theirs weren’t.

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        Denmark checking in. A lot of our highways have separate parallel bicycle highways. It’s really great! They have exits in the same spots as cars do and have big sound barriers.x

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        anywhere that you might say “we shouldn’t have a bike lane here, it’s too dangerous for cyclists” is a place where there should be a bike lane.

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        Spending billions of dollars connecting two cities and not spending a couple percent more for parallel active transportation infrastructure also seems like a terrible idea.

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                Nobody cares if you block them. We object to the things you say. You don’t just block people and get on with your life, you attempt to weaponize blocking people. For your own petty needs.

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                  Ah so it is considered petty to tell someone why you are blocking. We? You are plural?

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        Well it’s a good thing no one is proposing that! Seriously, where do you people come from?

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              When cars are going 70+ mph 6 feet of fucking grass is not enough there needs to be a cement barrier.

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                Definitely put cameras in the bus lane and fine all the cars who are driving in it then.

                There are solid black lines in the bottom diagram instead of dashed in the top two, this suggests something more than a lane line, it might be representing a kerb or could easily be a more physical barrier. but as far as a simplified diagram goes that looks pretty clearly separated as can be depicted in plan view.

                I assume this is not the detailed plans. If it is those buildings are way too small for all of these people to fit inside.

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                There’s a bus lane before getting to the cars, and there’s a stoplight and a tighter lane which indicates that that’s no longer a fucking 70+mph zone lol.

                Look, it’s ok to not be that smart but being such a massive prick about it is a bad look, broski.

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    It’s crazy how our 18-lane highway, with none of the stuff mentioned, is gridlocked all the time. 🤔

    Maybe one more lane, bro!

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      It’s the stoplight’s fault! Ban stop signs, traffic lights and remove speed limits and we’ll never have gridlock again!!!

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        I’m unironically all for removing stop signs, traffic lights, and speed limits. If you build streets and roads properly, you don’t need those, frequently ignored, control devices.

        It would remove gridlock, but not necessarily congestion.

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            As an often pedestrian, i often prefer lights. If it’s a busy dual carriageway roundabout It can often be hard to route pedestrians across. You end up with elaborate and winding pedestrian subways.

            Roundabouts are ok on rural junctions, but round here we often have to have traffic lights on roundabouts as you start to get closer in to urban areas - and they do seem to help flow.

            I just don’t believe road design alone can remove the need for coordination as population density gets above a certain level. Fuck in central London you need traffic lights just to coordinate all the buses never mind cars. Of course they need an overhead s-bahn type light rail system there though, but planning rules/landowners won’t allow it. At this point they just need less people - but again the govt/electorate/landowners won’t allow that because they’re all a bunch of tw4ts.

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              As Jason Slaughter (Not Just Bikes) says—and I agree—any city street with more than one car lane in each direction is an abject failure of urban planning. Multi-lane roundabouts should never exist in places where people are expected to walk.

              If enough people are going the same direction at the same time that they need more than one lane for cars, then that’s the perfect route for transit.

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            Round abouts, peanuts, uncontrolled, yielded, modal filtered, raised, edged, sunken, and more.

            There are a lot of ways to give clear cues to all road users on what to do, and how to do it, without relying on signage. Traffic lights in particular are extremely low throughput; their primary advantage is allowing vehicles to drive really fast between intersections, so they are great for roads/highways but not for streets.

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        Ok with that, but you also need to remove other cars from the road. Every time I’ve been stuck in traffic, it was because there were so many other cars. This has got out of control! Who are all these people and where are they all going?!?

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        All these bums without cars trying to cross the road made me late! Do they really need a crossing every five blocks? /S

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          The project actually still hasn’t started due to ongoing litigation and budget constraints. It did get redesigned with more bike infrastructure and pedestrian bridges to cross the freeway, but local bike and pro-transit groups still oppose the project.

          One of the main arguments is that the state’s proposal is not consistent with the city’s regional plan, which says that the interstate can only be expanded if congestion pricing is also implemented to discourage additional traffic.

          At this point, the state is planning to fix up some bridges while the rest of the legal fight plays out. Expansion probably won’t start until 2028 in any case… at which point this song will be an “oldie.”

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    I’m stuck on this rock with people like that. The worst part is they speak with such confidence and authority that their opinions will carry more weight than mine in the real world.

    I despair.

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      Oh how naive I was when I used to think that spread of the internet would mean spread of intelligence. Who knew that the dumb-and-the-loud would have an easier time than the smart folks when spreading information.

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      To fight despair, organize. Find and join your local advocacy groups for transit, cycling, etc. Many improvements that happen are the result of fierce advocacy behind the scenes.

      Or at the very least, participate in a critical mass in your city from time to time.