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    andrew tate’s “university” had a leak, exposing cca 800k usernames and 325k email addresses of people that failed to pay $50 monthly fee

    entire thing available at DDoSectrets, just gonna drop tree of that torrent:

    ├── Private Channels
    │   ├── AI Automation Agency.7z
    │   ├── Business Mastery.7z
    │   ├── Content Creation + AI Campus.7z
    │   ├── Copywriting.7z
    │   ├── Crypto DeFi.7z
    │   ├── Crypto Trading.7z
    │   ├── Cryptocurrency Investing.7z
    │   ├── Ecommerce.7z
    │   ├── Health & Fitness.7z
    │   ├── Hustler's Campus.7z
    │   ├── Social Media & Client Acquisition.7z
    │   └── The Real World.7z
    ├── Public Channels
    │   ├── AI Automation Agency.7z
    │   ├── Business Mastery.7z
    │   ├── Content Creation + AI Campus.7z
    │   ├── Copywriting.7z
    │   ├── Crypto DeFi.7z
    │   ├── Crypto Trading.7z
    │   ├── Cryptocurrency Investing.7z
    │   ├── Ecommerce.7z
    │   ├── Fitness.7z
    │   ├── Hustler's Campus.7z
    │   ├── Social Media & Client Acquisition.7z
    │   └── The Real World.7z
    └── users.json.7z
    

    yeah i studied defi and dropshipping at andrew tate’s hustler university

    statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

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      I’m just curious how many hits you would get if you searched for ‘4 hour work week’, as iirc that is where all these people stole the idea from. (well, not totally, the idea they are stealing is selling others the idea of the 4 hour work week, but I hope you get what I mean, 4 hour work weeks all the way down).

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        See, isn’t the 4-hour work week one of those “just make other people work 50+hours a week on your behalf and take the money they’ve earned for it” schemes? This looks much broader rather than being married to a specific sub-scam. Like, if crypto is down they can sell drop shipping. If drop shipping is cringe they can sell AI slop monetization. If Amazon tightens their standards and starts locking out AI stuff they can go back to crypto.

        It’s in the same genre of trying to monetize being a conspicuous asshole, but it is one of the more complex evolutions, at least compared to the standard grift-luencer.

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          I think it is that book yes, it started a lot of these things, and a lot of these people (im generalizing here, but the Tates are imho part of a long line of manosphere people who all do this kind of stuff, selling others courses into dropshipping, courses into setting up passive income streams, courses into getting laid/mindset etc. And it seems like the only thing they manage to really sell is courses. I don’t think it is that complex an evolution more like the natural progression, of course they get into crypto and AI slop. I think the only real change of somebody like Tate vs the other weirdos who did this (somebody like Cernovic was also one of these people for example) is that Tate has a little bit of charisma for an important market segment (the under 18 year olds).

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        alright it’s 14gb of json files let me figure out how to grep it in reasonable way and i’ll get there for now i’ll say that the biggest one (size) in private channels is “crypto trading” (2 gb) then “crypto investing” (1.6gb), while in public channels it’s “the real world” (1.7 gb) and “ecommerce” (0.87 gb)

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        not many. 2 hits for “4 hour workweek” and 35 for “4 hour work week” another 4 for “4-hour workweek” and 5 for “4-hour work week”

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          that’s not even that, maybe with exception for tate &co. it’s just shilling shitcoins and selling hopes like that one tiktok spammer mussy described by 404media

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      Ugh. Tangentially related: a streamer I follow has been getting lots of people in her chat saying that one of the taters wants to hire her. I’ve started noticing comments like “I love white culture” and weird fantasies about the roman empire. Historically she’s also been asked multiple times what her ethnicity is (she is white), specifically if she is scandanavian, which I am starting to view under some kind of white supremacist lens. I’ve told her to ignore anything mentioning the taters or “top g” as one of them is known.

      Honestly, I’m worried that she could get brigaded by these creeps, even if she shows no response whatsoever.

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        I mean, according to the charges Tate hiring young women usually meant some variety of sex trafficking and adult video that he took the money for. Tbh the whole space is sufficiently toxic that she ought to start dropping the banhammer judiciously, but IDK what situation is politically economically etc.

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        fwiw i attribute this to the stop doing x meme (that I believe skillissuer is referencing):

        been thinking about making one for (memory) safe c++, but unfortunately I don’t know the topic deep enough to make the meme good