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  • I agree btw, it will be a big rep damage like how NFTs damaged the idea of cryptocurrencies, and in the same note you saw how a lot of pro-cryptocurrency people disliked NFTs just because they saw this backlash (and the more naked grift of NFTs) coming.

    That’s for sure. Given the circumstances, I suspect that its gonna damage the overall public image of software development - beyond suggesting software dev to be full of AI bros, the rise of vibe coding has thrown the software industry’s vibes-based management into sharp relief, making its dysfunctions much harder to ignore.


  • New thread from Baldur Bjarnason, taking aim at AI coders and vibe coders alike:

    Laughing at ā€œAIā€ boosters worrying ā€œvibe codingā€ is becoming synonymous with ā€œAI codingā€. Tech is vibes througout[sic]. Vibe management. Vibe strategy. Vibe design. Coding has been a garbage fire for decades and, yeah it’s a vibe-based pop culture from top to bottom and has only been getting worse

    Code that does what the end user wants is already the exception. Software is managed on vibes throughout. Anybody who goes huffy because the field OVERWHELMINGLY responds to ā€œvibe coding is using AI to create code that you don’t care aboutā€ with ā€œso all coding, gotcha!ā€ has not been paying attention

    ā€œVibe coding is all AI codingā€ feels true to most because not caring about what happens after it’s pushed to the final victim is already the norm. The only change from adopting ā€œAIā€ is they now have the freedom to no longer care about what happens BEFORE as well.

    ā€œNot everybody in software dev is like that! Some coders genuinely care and put in the work needed to make good softwareā€

    True, but I feel confident in saying that next to none of those are leaning hard into ā€œAI codingā€

    The target market for ā€œAIā€ is SPECIFICALLY people who don’t care

    Giving a personal sidenote, I expect ā€œvibe codingā€ will stick around as a pejorative after the AI bubble bursts - ā€œAIā€ has already become synonymous with ā€œzero-effort, low-quality garbageā€ in the public eye, so re-using ā€œvibe codeā€ to mean ā€œcrapping out garbageā€ isn’t gonna be a difficult task, linguistically speaking.





  • This is completely orthogonal to your point, but I expect the public’s gonna have a much lower opinion of software engineers after this bubble bursts, for a few reasons:

    • Right off the bat, they’re gonna have to deal with some severe guilt-by-association. AI has become an inescapable part of the Internet, if not modern life as a whole, and the average experience of dealing with anything AI related has been annoying at best and profoundly negative at worst. Combined with the tech industry going all-in on AI, I can see the entire field of software engineering getting some serious ā€œAI broā€ stench all over it.

    • The slop-nami has unleashed a torrent of low-grade garbage on the 'Net, whether it be zero-effort ā€œAI artā€ or paragraphs of low-quality SEO optimised trash, whilst the gen-AI systems responsible for both have received breathless hype/praise from AI bros and tech journos (e.g. Sam Altman’s Ai-generated ā€œmetafictionā€). Combined with the continous and ongoing theft of artist’s work that made this possible, and the public is given a strong reason to view software engineers as generally incapable of understanding art, if not outright hostile to art and artists as a whole.

    • Of course, the massive and ongoing theft of other people’s work to make the gen-AI systems behind said slop-nami possible have likely given people reason to view software engineers as entirely okay with stealing other’s work - especially given the aforementioned theft is done with AI bros’ open endorsement, whether implicitly or explicitly.