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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

Last weekā€™s thread

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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    Iā€™m just curious how many hits you would get if you searched for ā€˜4 hour work weekā€™, as iirc that is where all these people stole the idea from. (well, not totally, the idea they are stealing is selling others the idea of the 4 hour work week, but I hope you get what I mean, 4 hour work weeks all the way down).

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      See, isnā€™t the 4-hour work week one of those ā€œjust make other people work 50+hours a week on your behalf and take the money theyā€™ve earned for itā€ schemes? This looks much broader rather than being married to a specific sub-scam. Like, if crypto is down they can sell drop shipping. If drop shipping is cringe they can sell AI slop monetization. If Amazon tightens their standards and starts locking out AI stuff they can go back to crypto.

      Itā€™s in the same genre of trying to monetize being a conspicuous asshole, but it is one of the more complex evolutions, at least compared to the standard grift-luencer.

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        I think it is that book yes, it started a lot of these things, and a lot of these people (im generalizing here, but the Tates are imho part of a long line of manosphere people who all do this kind of stuff, selling others courses into dropshipping, courses into setting up passive income streams, courses into getting laid/mindset etc. And it seems like the only thing they manage to really sell is courses. I donā€™t think it is that complex an evolution more like the natural progression, of course they get into crypto and AI slop. I think the only real change of somebody like Tate vs the other weirdos who did this (somebody like Cernovic was also one of these people for example) is that Tate has a little bit of charisma for an important market segment (the under 18 year olds).

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      not many. 2 hits for ā€œ4 hour workweekā€ and 35 for ā€œ4 hour work weekā€ another 4 for ā€œ4-hour workweekā€ and 5 for ā€œ4-hour work weekā€

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      alright itā€™s 14gb of json files let me figure out how to grep it in reasonable way and iā€™ll get there for now iā€™ll say that the biggest one (size) in private channels is ā€œcrypto tradingā€ (2 gb) then ā€œcrypto investingā€ (1.6gb), while in public channels itā€™s ā€œthe real worldā€ (1.7 gb) and ā€œecommerceā€ (0.87 gb)

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        thatā€™s not even that, maybe with exception for tate &co. itā€™s just shilling shitcoins and selling hopes like that one tiktok spammer mussy described by 404media