Let’s just pretend that metric doesn’t have fractions.
Not that they don’t exist, but in my experience I have never seen them used, if something is, say, 1/2 liter you see it written as 50cl…
For burgers, I have seen
- 150gr
- 250gr
- 2 x 150gr
- 500gr
- 1kg
But maybe it’s only my experience and in other parts of Europe it’s different
1/2 liter is usually marked as 0,5 liter.
I want a 0.5 liter burger, please.
No it’s 500 mL
SI says either 0.5 Liter or better 0.0005 m^3
? No it isn’t
Depends where you live, but it definitely is
Yes it is, living in Brazil all my life and I’ve** seen it and wrote it myself that way
Edit: one to I’ve, stupid gboard has gotten so fucking bad with
shippingswipping latelyOh ok cool never been to brazil
It depends on the country.
Viertel Pfünder und Drittel Pfünder isjust as confusing.
Would you rather eat the 113-grammer burger? Or the 151-grammer burger?
Yes.
There is also a metric pound but honestly people don’t use it.
Had they adopted the metric system
Or at least had an education system capable of teaching basic maths
You’re from the UK I presume then? 🙂
Do Americans need bigger burgers?
Yes
Fair question. ☝️
No, Americans could have had bigger burgers if they weren’t stupid.
“Uh a 151.197 grammer with cheese.”
Americans if they adopted the metric system: “.25kg > .5kg”
Classic.
“.25kg > .5kg”
Which one of those is a third?
Deoends on whether you’re asking for a third of 0.75kg or a third of 1.5 kg
0.25 > 0.3
0.03333333333333333~
Missed a bit
But that’s easy to solve by just adding a zero to .5
.25kg < .50kg
Though I could see some profit seeking companies selling a .250 burger for 25% more than their .25 burger.
The likely answer lol
We can’t afford bigger burgers now anyway, the price of beef is insane. And when bigger burgers are desired, they’ll sell “double quarter pounders”. Not that Americans generally need bigger burgers anyway, but that’s a different topic.
the price of beef is insane
Good
TIL fractions don’t exist in the metric system.
We wouldn’t normally say “I’d like a 18/100 kilogram burger”…
Yup for us its 250g vs 333g burgers. Or 0.25 vs 0.33kg
especially in the context of foodstuffs the decagramm (or just deka in common language) is getting used in Austria, don’t know if it’s the same in germany, so it would be a 25 deka burger
MORE DEKA!!!
And these signs could have used ounces instead. But they didn’t. We had other units available. The units weren’t the issue
Eh that’s regional still, like in dutch we’ve changed the meaning of old imperial words to be equal to metric quantities, though probably used more common by older people. So 1 ons (ounce) = 100g and a pond (pound) is half a kg. But this is mostly used at a butcher. For other stuff we mostly just use the metric nomenclature.
well they do, but since it’s metric it’s always 1/10 1/100 … and they have their own name so no math needed
Fractions still work the same way. The thing is Americans would think the 1/100 is bigger than 1/2, because 100>2. Doesn’t matter what unit you start with
Edit: I see what you’re saying with the names. But do you think the average american knows that a quarter pounder is less than a third pounder?
I don’t think they’re significantly stupider than anywhere else. I don’t know if there even are statistics on that, I should probably check. Plenty of people are terrible at math over here in Europe too.
The average American literally works in random-ass fractions all the time and doesn’t rely on everything being base ten.
I really want to believe that, as an American. I really, really do. How would a legitimate way of testing that go? There’s no feasible way to test EVERYBODY, so you’d have to consult the statistics people, who I am not.
I was about to start looking into median ages and education rates and literacy, but I really don’t care that much about this as I lay in bed and am about to go to sleep, so I asked chatgpt, which then gave me a long answer with this at the end:
Yes, the average American probably knows that 1/3 is greater than 1/4, but a noticeable percentage—especially among adults with lower educational attainment or math anxiety—may hesitate or answer incorrectly, especially outside of a clear, direct question.
And my intuition tells me this is likely right on.
one way to test it is if a major corporation active all over the country introduces a product with a fraction in the name, meant as a competitor to another product with a smaller fraction. the sales numbers would roughly reflect the result.
Mmmmm… Doubt.
I grew up with a mcds and an a&w nearby in the 90s and 00s. A&W is kinda like Wendy’s: their food just kinda sucks. I don’t look at value that closely unless all other things are equal. So saying “nobody bought our burger because they all can’t read numbers” is kind’ve a petulant behavior unless it’s proven imo… it’s like making excuses for your failures.
People just LIKE McDonald’s. And and brand loyalty is real.
People just LIKE McDonald’s
…why?
Here in Japan, it’s one of the few restaurants that’s often open at 4 AM and has free wifi and phone charging, and is the same across the country. Kinda like wafflehouse, I rarely eat there, but it’s nice as a last resort.
The food is still mid, and kinda expensive at 2/3 or less the cost in the US.
People all over the world like McDonald’s for different reasons. That’s not a serious question.
Can this not be Reddit? Please? Reddit culture sucked and I left there for good reason. It doesn’t have to be funny or clever anymore. It’s just real people having real discussion, intelligently, on a real level, yeah?
Most Americans are educated, but it’s a really diverse country with lots of issues. There are plenty of people in countries that use metric that don’t even understand metric or fractions, too, as most people are the exact goddamn same, especially now with the internet. A&W burgers were a specific type and I don’t remember them being very good. I think that’s why they failed, not because people couldn’t maximize the value. If anything, I think it was a death spiral in a company known for putting soft serve and soda together, not 1/12th of a pound of shitty beef.
They probably weren’t making much money, had to cut back, shitty employees cutting quality because they don’t care and bad leadership, and people stopped going even more, and then leadership blamed literacy instead of their own repeated fuckups and that nobody really liked them anymore.
Should have sold it as a 2/6ths burger.
The maths teachers wouldn’t have been happy, but apparently the buyers would have.“Woah, 2/6 is waayyyy bigger than 1/4, not like that teensy 1/3 burger they used to have”
Lol that’s amazing, I’m not American so I’ve not come across this ad before. Thanks.
metric system
Is this one of those intentionally-obviously-wrong comments designed to encourage people to comment on the meme?
Worked didn’t it?
Sounds to me like they missed the opportunity to sell a 1/5 burger for more instead.
Fifthy pounder on the way
The filthy pounder with cheese. Sounds like a good movie.
A regular McDonald’s hamburger is 1/10, I think people would have figured it out at that point.
Pretty sure fractions are pure math & not metric or imperial.
Americans do be dumb AF, though.
Yes and no. Imperial measurements that are not integers are displayed in fractions. Hence quarterpounders and thirpounders. In metrics, fractions are rarely used. Because the scales are more granular and because non-integers are usually displayed in decimals.
People thinking a third-pound-burger being smaller than a quarterpounder could not have happened with metrics, because, well, look at the title.
I’m from a country where we use metric and can’t think of anything that would normally be displayed as a fraction. Sure we know what half and third are, but they’re not used officially for anything
You’ve never had to halve a recipe before? Which is easier to do in your head, half of 78.862 milliliters or half of 1/3 cup?
No recipe lists 78.862 mm of anything.
A recipe with metric units will default to gram amounts that are divisible by ten and thus infinitely easier to halve than “5/8 of your grandmother’s good cake spoon” or any such folksy nonsense.
I would round it to 40ml. I have no idea how much 1/6th of a cup would be. Most of my cups are different sizes too so I wouldn’t know which on to trust. Also they are oddly shaped and not transparent making it a real challenge all and all.
I find it funny how people are very confidently incorrect here. Best example I can think of is to compare an imperial and metric drill bit set
Fractions are more accurate. You can’t display 1/3 as a decimal. Americans are dumb, but this isn’t an imperial versus metric thing.
1/3 = 0.(3) (digits in parenthesis indicate repeating)
2/3 = 0.(6)
3/3 = 0.(9) which is equal to 1 btw
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.999…
Despite common misconceptions, 0.999… is not “almost exactly 1” or “very, very nearly but not quite 1”; rather, “0.999…” and “1” represent exactly the same number.
Your accuracy goes out of the window when you are actually measuring things though. The error is as significant as rounding 1/3 to 0.33
Not rounding. Mathematically, 0.(3) (repeating) is the exact same as 1/3
I know that. But practically, if you are trying to measure 1/3 of an arbitrary distance, or 1/3 of an arbitrary weight, you are not going to be able to hit the exact, precise measurement using normal household or kitchen tools. Therefore your origin assertion that 1/3 as a fraction is more accurate than decimal is meaningless, as you can’t actually utilise that extra precision.
Are Europeans afraid of fractions or something? It’s way quicker to mentally add 9/16 and 3/8 compared to 0.5625 and 0.3750…
Like I get that metric is better but “metric is when no fractions” make 0/1 sense.
Edit - tfw you get ratiod by “9+6 is hard” in a thread about people not understanding basic arithmetic
I’m a lifelong American and neither of these are easy, but the decimals are much more like real numbers to me.
I encounter decimal points in my day to day interactions with numbers. Not so with fractions.
I will start learning fractions when restaurants put them in their prices.
“That will be $4 and 3/4,” said no one ever, thank gob.
xD
Imperial measurements that are not integers are displayed in fractions.
Often, they’re not: look at packaging labels especially in grocery stores. Engineers use decimals regardless of unit.
Weight scales in the US don’t mark 1⁄3.
Quarter & third likely show up for verbal ease/brevity of naming: saying 250 grams is a bit of mouthful & unlikely for naming anything. I suspect if Americans used metric, they might still use fractions to refer to burgers by weight/mass in kg (like drugs!).
In metrics, fractions are rarely used.
Also convention. Nothing prevents 1⁄3 kg, 1⁄4 kg, and I’d expect to see 1⁄3 kg more often than 0.3̅ kg if rounding were avoided.
In metric, Americans still would get this wrong, because they don’t understand fractions despite using them. Or are you suggesting everyone would get the order of 1⁄3 kg & 1⁄4 kg wrong?
Americans rarely see 1/3. We typically only use binary fractions: halves, quarters, eighths, sixteenths. Occasionally, 32nds. Smaller than that, we use decimal.
Obviously 1/3 vs 1/4 is the same distinction regardless of unit. But part of the whole idea of metric is avoiding dealing with fractions in lieu of decimals. It’s inherently less fraction-heavy.
[VINCENT]
And you know what they call a Quarter Pounder with Cheese in Paris?
[JULES]
They don’t call it a Quarter Pounder with Cheese?
[VINCENT]
No, they don’t have fractions, they wouldn’t know what the fuck a Quarter is.
[JULES]
Then what do they call it?
[VINCENT]
They call it Royale with Cheese.
No, they don’t have fractions, they wouldn’t know what the fuck a Quarter is.
“No they have the metric system, they don’t know what the fuck a quarter pounder is”
Fractions aren’t imperial, fractions are fractions, everyone has them. It’s the ‘pound’ that’s imperial and normal people don’t use.
#woosh
How could OP have transcribed the movie clip so wrong, but still made an absurdist joke? Thanks for clearing it up.
I’ve been a victim of Poe’s Law, but there has to be some threshold where it’s not ambiguous.
Recently it occurred to me that in the US we have 25¢ coins but $20 bills. It never bothered me before but it’s really odd. Especially when many other countries have 20"¢" coins.
20¢ coins would be better for transitioning away from smaller denominations of coins. If you got rid of everything smaller you could drop a decimal place.
We can already just round to the nearest quarter. Basically no machines take anything less than quarters.
I’m gonna move the goal posts here and say smaller burgers are inherently better. I don’t want to chew on a giant pile of ground beef.
You must love the smashburger trend
I love them, but I wouldn’t consider them a trene. It’s one of the original burgers in the U.S.
Before BK or MCDonalds. And sold at places like Steak N Shake which is fairly common.
I’d consider them a trend, at least in my area. Maybe they’re not new, but I never saw them until last year and now they’re everywhere.
They are less prominent by location I suppose. A lot of it likely had to do with speed. Places like McDonald’s went with thin patties to compensate for speed. Krystals was one of the first chains, and they press 5 holes in each patty before they hit the grill. The smash burgers were just another way to cook them high and fast. I like them a lot but it’s something I rarely do at home because the odds of setting off the smoke alarm is high. And that’s annoying as all hell. Flat tops on outdoor grills are becoming more of a thing from what I’ve heard, which may be lending to more people making them at home. I’ve heard several people talking about Blackstones or what not. The American family was known to make burgers on a grill from most films, which you couldn’t really make smash burgers like that with grates
Absolutely. Throw on some cheddar or muenster and drizzle some hot bbq, we’re in business.
Quar ter poun der. Perfect size. Good marketing.
“A ThIRd PoUnDeR pLeASe”. Too much to chew. Bad marketing.
The funny thing is McDonald’s also tried 1/3 lb burgers later on, and also failed.
It’s probably also why they don’t advertise a Big Mac is 1/5 pound of beef, because it would make the Quarter pounder lose interest I assume.
They are actually 1/10 lol. I think that’s why, they don’t want ppl to know how tiny those patties are. I add two patties to bring it up to 4 total at 4/10 lb, puts it 1 patty shy of a double quarter pounder.
