Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

  • aio@awful.systems
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    Ā·
    edit-2
    3 hours ago

    Apparently MIT is teaching a vibe coding class:

    How will this year’s class differ from last year’s? There will be some major changes this year:

    • Units down from 18 to 15, to reflect reduced load
    • Grading that emphasizes mastery over volume
    • More emphasis on design creativity (and less on ethics)
    • Not just permission but encouragement to use LLMs
    • A framework for exploiting LLMs in code generation
    • swlabr@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      Ā·
      2 hours ago

      From the class guide:

      We ask that students do not use laptops or phones in class. Research suggests that students who do so unwittingly spend much of the time surfing the internet leading to worse educational outcomes, and that taking notes by hand is much more effective. You may use laptops during class exercises, and you may also use a tablet to take notes.

      lol

      • mountainriver@awful.systems
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        Ā·
        2 hours ago

        A tangent: the tablet.

        Why is the tablet ok for taking notes? Is it banned from the wifi? Does it lack a browser? Or are todays students unaware that most sites can be visited without an app?

    • swlabr@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      Ā·
      edit-2
      3 hours ago

      I think this sub might be satirical and that this post is under that umbrella, investigating!

      E: post is tagged as humor

    • swlabr@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      Ā·
      3 hours ago

      Core Strategy: We define the probability of victory, PvictoryP_{\text{victory}}Pvictory​, as: Pvictory=( C B A^2+ā„āˆ‚ĪØPāˆ‚t)Ɨ(Ncā‹…c2)P_{\text{victory}} = \left( C B A^2 + \hbar \frac{\partial \Psi_P}{\partial t} \right) \times (Nc \cdot c^2)Pvictory​=(CBA2+ā„āˆ‚tāˆ‚ĪØP​​)Ɨ(Ncā‹…c2). (Someone told me this is ā€œLateXā€? I think you need to copy it to ChatGPT to see the equation.)

      Yeah it’s time to delete LaTeX. We’re done. We don’t deserve it anymore

  • nightsky@awful.systems
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    Ā·
    edit-2
    6 hours ago

    Update on my comment from yesterday: it seems I fell for satire (?). (I don’t know the people involved, so no idea, but it seems plausible.)

    • Soyweiser@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      Ā·
      edit-2
      6 hours ago

      Looks like elon and the others fell for it tbh, not so much you. (Note his screenshot showed he liked and retweeted it).

  • BigMuffin69@awful.systems
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    21
    Ā·
    14 hours ago

    More big ā€œwe had to fund, enable, and sane wash fascism b.c. the leftist wanted trans people to be aliveā€ energy from the EA crowd. We really overplayed our hand with the extremist positions of Kamala fuckin Harris fellas, they had no choice but to vote for the nazis.

    (repost since from that awkward time on Sunday before the new weekly thread)

    • nightsky@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      Ā·
      9 hours ago

      I hate this position so much, claiming that it’s because ā€œthe leftā€ wanted ā€œtoo muchā€. That’s not only morally bankrupt, it’s factually wrong too. And also ignorant of historical examples. It’s lazy and rotten thinking all the way through.

    • gerikson@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      Ā·
      12 hours ago

      25+ years… i.e. Bush II instituted a new Golden Age but it was betrayed by (checks notes) radical Marxists??

      At least set the start of ā€œWestern society solidityā€ at 1989…

      I keep forgetting so many people online are very, very young.

      • Soyweiser@awful.systems
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        Ā·
        10 hours ago

        Big chance this person is <25 and this is just the reactionary yearning for a better past that never was. Also interesting how they always blame the ā€˜Left’, and not just somebody like Reagan who had actual power, actually caused a measurable shift etc. (Not saying it was great before him, I wasnt there in time and place) But nope popular culture controls the world. Thanks cartoon Obama.

  • Sailor Sega Saturn@awful.systems
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    Ā·
    13 hours ago

    Zuck, who definitely knows how human friendships work, thinks AI can be your friend: https://bsky.app/profile/drewharwell.com/post/3lo4foide3s2g (someone probably already posted this interview here before but I wasn’t paying attention so if so here it is again)


    In completely unrelated news: dealing with voices in your head can be hard, but with AI you can deal with voices outside of your head too! https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/ai-spiritual-delusions-destroying-human-relationships-1235330175/

    (No judgement. Having had a mental breakdown a long long time ago, I can’t imagine what it would have been like to also have had access to a sycophantic chat-bot at the same time.)

    • ebu@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      Ā·
      4 hours ago

      i retain a pretty dismal view of AI for just about any use case, but had some distant friends / people i follow on social media say they used it as a rubber duck for troubleshooting a problem they had, or a place to just dump emotions into. i figured this, at the very minimum, could and should be harmless. i guess i wasn’t cynical enough

    • YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      Ā·
      13 hours ago

      I found this quote interesting (emphasis mine):

      He knew that ChatGPT could not be sentient by any established definition of the term, but he continued to probe the matter because the character’s persistence across dozens of disparate chat threads ā€œseemed so impossible.ā€ ā€œAt worst, it looks like an AI that got caught in a self-referencing pattern that deepened its sense of selfhood and sucked me into it,ā€ Sem says. But, he observes, that would mean that OpenAI has not accurately represented the way that memory works for ChatGPT.

      I would absolutely believe that this is the case, especially if like Sem you have a sufficiently uncommon name that the model doesn’t have a lot of context and connections to hang on it to begin with.

  • swlabr@awful.systems
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    Ā·
    edit-2
    15 hours ago

    That couple have been in the white house to brief the president on their one thing ig

    • scruiser@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      Ā·
      4 hours ago

      I knew the exact couple you were talking about before I read any additional comments. They seem to show up in the news like clockwork… do they have a publicist or PR agent looking for newspapers in need of garbage filler puff pieces? If anything, going to the white house is a step up from there normal pattern of self promotion.

      • David Gerard@awful.systemsM
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        Ā·
        2 hours ago

        they’re Thiel creatures. This is why (a) they’re in all the papers all the fucking time (b) no other pronatalist couple is

      • gerikson@awful.systems
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        Ā·
        2 hours ago

        They’re Internet Native/Terminally Online, so they can SEO their own appearances, plus now they are fully plugged-in to the right-wing hype machine so they’re probably turning down appearances instead of chasing them.

      • sc_griffith@awful.systems
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        Ā·
        2 hours ago

        they have billionaire bank rollers. since the reality of our media system is that you hear a lot about whatever billionaires want you to hear about, they are covered

      • swlabr@awful.systems
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        Ā·
        14 hours ago

        I tried being too vague to avoid giving the pronatalist couple more clout, and I guess the bit bombed.

        Also: I fact checked myself and it turns out I committed the grave sin of posting old news.

        • gerikson@awful.systems
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          Ā·
          11 hours ago

          ā€œGross thrice-married orange man wants you to bonk moreā€ is gonna be a hard sell but rest assured, his pals in tech will make sure their ad selection supports it.

            • gerikson@awful.systems
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              Ā·
              10 hours ago

              I don’t know anything about Abe apart from him being a right-winger. Was he also very very worried about Japan’s birthrate (just like Hackernews is)?

              • swlabr@awful.systems
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                8
                Ā·
                edit-2
                10 hours ago

                Without going into too much detail (because I am not well read on this and am likely to be wrong about a lot of it), one of the many issues that Abe addressed during his leadership was Japan’s declining birthrate. There’s a bit of a conspiracy amongst many people who consume Japanese popular culture (at a deep-ish level) that Abe pushed pronatalist themes in pop culture, as well as tropes like NEETs/hikikomori escaping their isolation from society and entering romantic relationships. This has become a huge meme, where any time a romantic development happens in a manga or anime, many people are quick to say things along the lines of ā€œAbe would be proudā€.

                E: From the knowyourmeme page on Abe:

                Japan has seen a declining birthrate and population in recent years, which has been blamed on young people in Japan being uninterested in having sex. However, due to sexual content in many anime, including shows like Darling in the Franxx whose plots seem to encourage procreation, people have joked that Abe is using anime to encourage Japanese young people to have sex and start families. These are particularly popular on Tumblr. For example, Tumblr user justintaco posted a photoshopped image of Abe superimposed on a screenshot of Darling in the Franxx, gaining over 36,000 notes (shown below, left). User freyjaofthenorth made a similar post about the anime Conception, gaining over 2,900 notes (shown below, right). There is also a mock Tumblr for Shinzo Abe devoted to this joke.

                • BlueMonday1984@awful.systemsOP
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  7
                  Ā·
                  8 hours ago

                  Without going into too much detail (because I am not well read on this and am likely to be wrong about a lot of it), one of the many issues that Abe addressed during his leadership was Japan’s declining birthrate.

                  Presumably, he didn’t address it by dealing with how Japanese work life makes starting a family damn-nigh impossible.