255 grams per week. That’s the short answer to how much meat you can eat without harming the planet. And that only applies to poultry and pork.
Beef cannot be eaten in meaningful quantities without exceeding planetary boundaries, according to an article published by a group of DTU researchers in the journal Nature Food. So says Caroline H. Gebara, postdoc at DTU Sustain and lead author of the study."
Our calculations show that even moderate amounts of red meat in one’s diet are incompatible with what the planet can regenerate of resources based on the environmental factors we looked at in the study. However, there are many other diets—including ones with meat—that are both healthy and sustainable," she says.
Can we please get moving on the lab grown meats already. This shit is getting depressing.
Just buy beans.
Stop pointing the finger at anyone but yourself.
What is wrong with beans?? You’re never going to get lab meat as good as beans in your lifetime. It’s a designer product for large children who are terrified of changing their diet.
I disagree. I imagine a future where the meat industry consists of luxury ranches, where prized specimen livestock are allowed to roam freely, grazing on the best grains all day, and attended by dutiful handlers at the ready to facilitate their every comfort. Each one, allowed to grow old and die naturally, never knowing fear or hardship.
All that’s required of them is the occasional tissue sample in order to keep cloning stocks up to date and viable.
Meanwhile, off in a separate facility, its meat is being mass produced to feed millions. Everyone wins.
Vegetables aren’t so scary, are they?
Being vegan now for 6+ years seeing articles and comments about meat is dystopian as fuck. It only took me a week to go from full-blown carnivore to vegan so people struggling with this always gets me.
Same. It was a very easy transition.
People are gasligting you. They’re just stubborn assholes who likely think prison torture is OK because its the status quo.
Everyone is different. I was never vegan, rather considered myself plant based because I allowed both local eggs and local honey in my diet (still do) but no other animal products. Did this for many years until a coworker made a lunch of local hunted venison for a staff meal, and well, I’m mostly against the industrial farming practices, this was technically ethical hunting. This man was part of our local indigenous tribe, so I indulged as not to be rude. It was a great meal honestly. Everyone gawked I was eating meat. And I spoke often about the industrial process of meat farming to try and educate, but ultimately if these people wanted to feed their kids cheetos wrapped in bacon for breakfast, nothing I could say would change that, and its not my place to chastize.
I never understood those who chastized others for trying.
Vegans hated me because I like using local honey in spring to help with my hay fever. Which I have right now :( Nevermind I haven’t had beef in years, I eat eggs from pet hens so a vegan gonna scream at me online. Yay. That will motivate me… sure thing.
The method of education isn’t going to work, and culture tied to meat cooking is so strong. Personally, giving up cheese, tbh, was really hard. Hummus wraps were the only thing that worked for me to satiate that urge for cheese. Vegan cheeses isnt it, idk why hummus wraps worked for me but it was much harder to give up cheese than butter or meat. I had to put a lot of effort to not cave to that kind of dairy at first. And im sure others have their own hang ups as well, it can be difficult, like quitting a vice.
Cultural change is slow (historically).
To note, After a number of years, a vegan friend of mine stopped being vegan. I think he was depressed, idk, but- we went to Wendy’s. I wasnt going to get anything, but he prodded, and I fucking caved to a pub burger with bacon on a pretzel roll and… my mouth had an orgasm, I swear to god. I got three more that week, realized they really do engineer this stuff to be so addictive. I questioned myself, what thefuck was doing? I had to stop this, and cut the behavior out just as fast, only because I could identify what was happening. Not everyone can.
Idk my point other than everyones journey will be different, but shaming folks isnt the ticket to healier environmental impacts always. Like I said, certsin vegans have shamed me for still consuming eggs and honey like it wasnt hard for me to give up cheese. Like telling an alcoholic they still suck because they drink soda. Its defeating.
Vystopia is a daily struggle.
https://www.vegansociety.com/news/blog/what-vystopia
Love this! I knew it was a thing but I’ve never seen a good write up on it.
I’ve moved to eating more non-meat than meat and skipping beef at home when I do, but I have never been able to fully convert. I was a pescatarian for almost 1.5 years in my youth and that was mostly doable, but still very tough and never really got easier.
A number of the existing alternatives involve gluten which I can’t have anymore (I rather liked seitan when I had it).
I currently have a vegetable farm and, for as much of the year as I can, eat what I grow outside for veg so they’re certainly not scary.
Not “scary”. There’s just never enough of them to fill the void inside me.
That’s psychological, the important things for fullness are fat, protein, and fiber. You can get all of those through vegetables, but it’s easy to convince your brain you’re not full. I don’t automatically feel full if I don’t eat hot food, so I have to be a little aware of it on super hot days. But it’s easy enough to tally up what I’ve actually eaten vs what exercise I’ve done and that helps my body realize that it is sated.
Eat beans and starch!!
We really don’t need lab grown stuff when the meat alternatives on the market now are already so good
If you haven’t tried any yet, I highly recommend Impossible meat, it’s virtually indistinguishable from the real thing. Quorn is another great option.
And on a budget, Seitan is also fantastic.
Honestly, just buy rice and beans and veggies. That plastic wraped stuff is dumb.
I would not have been able to convert my family to become vegetarians without the help of plant meats, as it allows them to continue cooking all their favorite recipes from childhood onward that are meat based, which is incredibly important to them.
I think you underestimate how useful of a tool plant meats are in converting people. In my experience it is far easier for people to switch to a plant meat than it is to convince them to abandon a significant portion of the diet they grew up with, especially if their recipes are deep rooted and cultural.
It’s something I’m extremely grateful to have in my tool belt. And in the case of Quorn, it’s not even a highly processed thing, it’s just a high protein, low carb fungus that they found naturally grew into a meaty texture, and easily absorbs vegan stocks to taste like anything.
Also @Syd@lemm.ee and @Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Honestly I think the meat alternatives are pretty terrible compromises to the real thing. We should be cooking to enhance the veggies flavor instead of trying to force them to be meat.
I have to disagree with this. Personally, I think every chicken alternative I have tried has been bad, and more expensive. I certainly havent tried everything, but I try what I see readily available to me.
Chicken is the easiest to make (from wheat flour).