My grandfather was different, he said “okay” for my diagnosis, read up on it, and when he read that Albert Einstein was suspected to have autism, he thought he had a bloodline of future scientists. Also he had a great trouble with saying “it’s enough work for today”, and was stubborn enough to work on something 18 hours if it meant it could be done under one day.
The “enough work” problem is the story of my childhood… I have way too many memories of sitting in the garage, or on the driveway, either freezing to death or being eaten alive by mosquitoes, at 2:30 a.m. while trying to hold a light absolutely still in just the right position…
“Puts some hair on your chest”
Me chest hairless at 40. What a lie.
Everybody knows that you need to chew some black root for that.
To be fair, I often stay up too late trying to find some bugs in my OpenGL pipeline, so I likely inherited a lot from him.
Autism has always been here. But instead of labeling someone as autistic and trying to improve understanding and communication, people were like, “That’s a weird dude.”
Or worse yet, they were interned on an institution all their lives or were killed by police during a misunderstanding.
Knowledge of sports statistics is a socially acceptable autistic hyper fixation.
Ever talked to one of these people? You mention a baseball player and they can tell you what their batting average was for each year of their decade long career, or they can tell you where every NFL player went to college; meanwhile I have trouble remembering my own phone number.
I have a friend who’s sure I’m on the spectrum, and points at things I talk about as my current hyperfixation. Meanwhile I’m talking imprecisely forgetting detail.
If I’m on the spectrum, I suck at fixating on stuff
Keep in mind there’s a strong correlation between ASD and ADHD. So that could just be the ADHD side of things.
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Those aren’t any of what you just said though. I have a drawer of wires everything you mentioned, outside of VGA because why? But I do not save or sort random electric wires.
My father had a workbench drawer marked “Pieces of Wire Too Short to Use.”
Mind you, he was an electrician.
Those are for special occasions, like when you’re doing electrical work in someone’s house who you don’t like much and feel like splicing 10 short wires together instead of using a long one.
He also had a drawer labeled “Plastic Shark” that contained one of my old toy sharks.
Hahah that is so wholesome.
Maybe he was an electrician, but he definitely didn’t spend much time with circuit boards.
I was eccentric when I was seven years old. They had meetings about me.
Was diagnosed with ASD around 50 years.
God damnit. Now I’m an autistic grandpa.
I had to clean out my uncle’s house when he passed away suddenly. Among many other things, this man had a box full of gum wrappers perfectly folded into little triangles. But don’t worry, I’ve been assured he wasn’t autistic, he was just a little antisocial and odd.
After reading these comments, I have concluded that everyone’s grandpa is autistic.
As someone with two autistic boys people really be stretching on their undiagnosed definitions of autism.
You know how neurodivergence is one category with a lot of different and diverse conditions and spectrums. Neurotypical is that as well. Not all neurotypical people are alike, there’s diversity as well.
I mean, I think the count of neurodiverse people on lemmy is likely very high (for various reasons). And since it’s highly genetically correlated, likely also the grandparents.
Also if we could diagnose the entire world we would find many people who would fall on the high-functioning side of the spectrum. Many people just go undiagnosed for their entire lives. I bet autism is way more common than the science tells us today.
Certainly, and as I (suspect) to have AuDHD (ADHD diagnosed).
This combination is really difficult to see/diagnose, as these conditions somewhat cancel each other out. It took me a very hyperfocused deep-dive into all kinds of papers, to slowly come to that conclusion, that ADHD doesn’t explain my behavior alone. AFAIK this is in some regard an active research-area (how correlated are these conditions, are they even the same underlying condition?).
(I think) few psychiatrists really have a deep insight into that (and thus are accurately diagnosing these).
Absolutely. Anecdotally, both my husband and I received our diagnosis after we had our son evaluated.
What are the reasons for all us neurodivergent people coming on here?
I would say foremost: strong opinions and idealism (very much correlated to ASD and ADHD) E.g. about the fucked up state of centralized social media controlled by right-wing billionaires.
Always when I talk to other people I don’t suspect to be neurodivergent, they just don’t really care about it, convenience is the driving factor.
Interesting. As someone diagnosed with ADHD it tracks.
I wonder if this is how ended up this way. I grew up with my two brothers and about 10-12 really close mates. But none of them share my views and just subscribe to the culture war bs and I often wondered what made me this way as to me I always did have empathy and anti establishment views.
Pretty sure the first dude to collect dead bugs and put them on corkboards with pins probably was on the spectrum. Also geologists. I can’t think of any other reason a person would be super into rocks.
Jesus Christ Marie, they’re not rocks. They’re minerals!!
If you didn’t have to mine them out of something and just picked them off the ground, they are pickerals (= rocks).
Rocks are something a whore does for money.
I was about to write two paragraphs about how awesome minerals are and then reflected on the thought that I may be on the spectrum.
my grandpa has a collection of those glass caps they use on power towers
after searching for an image the correct term is “glass insulator for power lines” but I think “glass cap for power tower” sounds funner lol
I have a collection of those silica gel packets I find at clothing stores and supermarkets
“Silica gel packets?”
Ohhhh, you mean the DO NOT EAT bags!
Oooh, like shoe flavor packets?
DO NOT EAT
You’re not my supervisor!
I once dragged one of those ceramic powerline insulators across two international borders because I found it lying around and liked how it looked. It took up the majority of the space in my backpack, so I had to buy a second backpack and carry it on the front of my chest lol. Apparently the reason they have that odd shape is so that when it’s raining, water can’t make a continuous trickle between the wire and the pylon
Apparently the reason they have that odd shape is so that when it’s raining, water can’t make a continuous trickle between the wire and the pylon
That and also to increase the distance any charge has to travel across the surface of the insulator.
I think collecting those was a bit of a thing in the 60s and 70s, I’ve run across multiple older folks who did. Pretty sure it eventually crossed with the “turn random shit into lamps” fad in the 70s because that seems to have become a fairly popular thing to do with them.
that’s interesting, had no idea there was a “turn shit into lamps” trend, that’s so funny. Thanks for sharing!
The dad of a friend of mine does collect those, and ceramic ones. As an employee of the city, he got permission to open a local museum of insulators in a bulding owned by the city.
I love those things
…where does he keep them? Make sure you wash your hands after touching them!
Wait are they lead? My grandparents have some on the window sill
Nope I’m pretty sure they are glass/ceramic, but they have a nice flared end so maybe they have other uses
Those packets are real nice sprinkled on bread rolls btw, also great in most kinds of stir fry / pan fry.
You should know if you have any of those real puffy pink ones, they’re particularly good.
My grandpa was very smart but seemingly clueless about the world. A lot of people said that he was a 12 year old in an adult body
He couldn’t of possibly been Autistic…
One way I look at historic figures for who might and might not been a high functioning autistic individual is to look at how well they may have functioned socially vs. How technical they were.
Take William Bligh for example. He was the captain of the Bounty when the famous mutiny happened. Contrary to popular belief, he wasn’t some tyrannical captain who was so monstrous that his crew were pushed beyond human dignity. He actually was milder than most captains and had unusual methods of keeping his crew in shape. For example he ordered his crew to dance on a daily basis. Why? Because for prolonged periods of time there was actually minimal activity needed on the ship, so many sailors would be lazy and get out of shape. By having them dance he was trying to keep them in shape to do their jobs when needed.
It worked and it was practical, but it made everyone hate him. He was a highly socially inept man and the mutiny on the bounty was NOT the only mutiny or rebellion he had to deal with.
But… as a sailor he was brilliant. He really did manage to keep his men healthier than normal, and as a navigator he was probably one of the best to have ever lived. No joke. When the crew set him adrift on a raft with the few loyal members with him. He navigated across the open pacific without a map and nonexistent tools, working only by memory and the stars that he had memorized and managed to make a trek of thousands of kilometers to the nearest safe port.
That kind of obsession on detail is not something that comes without being somewhat on the spectrum.
It was a longboat, not a raft, and he had a sextant and almanac so he could look up rise and set times for stars. He lacked charts.
It was a remarkable feat
When I think of Autistic people from history I think of Buster Keaton. Buster Keaton was known for his stone cold appearance and there is a lot of evidence that he was Autistic. I also wonder if some of the “witches” in the witch trails were actually just Autistic women.
There are also a plenty of other “might be Autistic” historical figures but it is rather hard to actually make any conclusions especially when you start going back centuries. Everyone from Ada Lovelace to Leonardo da Vinci to Alan Turning. I honesty think there could be a link between Autism and major breakthroughs.
One person I have never really been sure about is Hildegard of Bingen. There isn’t a lot to go one but she seemed very dedicated to a few things so maybe.
There’s also a hypothesis I’ve seen floating around that Celtic bards and Nordic Skalds may have had higher rates of autism. Basically the idea is that the requirements for memorizing, maintenance, and application of laws which they kept would be easier for folks with autism.
Yes, yes, autism is a super power and only autistic people deserve voting rights or can be competent and motivated, calm down, Elons.
That is your reaction to a group of marginalised people realising that a niche has always existed for them?
You need to reexamine your life choices.
Sure bro, that’s what happening, and there isn’t a very real autism supremacist movement
So anything that tries to level the playing field means there’s a “movement” that seeks to take everything from white men, that about right?
Grow the fuck up and accept responsibility for your own mistakes. There isn’t some great conspiracy to keep you down, you’re doing that all on your own.
high functioning autistic
I don’t want to seam pedantic. Levels in autism is profoundly discriminatory.
Ok, but it is no secret that there are people with autism that have severe difficulties with basically every task, while there are autistic people who can live their lives with manageable symptoms, and then there are autistic people who have talents neurotypical people can only dream of. I would not call them levels, but there must be a system to discern between those groups, and if it isn’t one that is quick and easy, it will probably not be used by the large majority of people. I know that Asperger’s is not ok anymore to use, but every other system will have to discern the 3 different groups, or am I mistaken?
You are correct. It’s the ol Euphemism Treadmill again. And again and again and again.
*couldn’t have
*couldn’t’ve
I’m too lazy to keep things organized, does that get me out of autism?
I think that upgrades your autism to audhd.
Nah, it just means the ADHD that often accompanied Autism is fight full force.
real conversation:
“back when I was a kid autism didn’t exist like you guys!”
“Ma… you’re autistic…”I’ve always loved the “lengths of wire” line. As a kid I used to check out lots of outdated library books about building a home science lab, and they consistently called a short piece of wire a “length” of wire. I don’t think I ever saw that term in any other context until Futurama, so it really brought back my nerdy roots.
I think a length of wire is more about being a vague measurement and to distinguish it from a wire coil, which is a separately useful thing in electronics.
Calling things a length isn’t indicative of being short. Terms like a length of rope and length of wire are fairly normal ways to talk about things without a strict measurement.
Yes I think it’s just a substitute term for “piece” of wire. But distinctly I recall “length” being commonly used in those old science books from the 40s and 50s. To me Professor Farnsworth seems cut out of that mold, the classic black and white movie scientist character.
I’m barely 40 and calling something a length of X seems totally normal to me. Making me feel old with that grandpa talk kid.
LOL I’m 70, talking about books from the 40s and 50s that my small-town library had in the 60s.
Come to think of it I have seen length of pipe or length of tubing in modern plumbing instructions.
It is normal, they’re just being weird about it because social media has rotted the brains of basically every living person.
