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I’m sorry to say that their answer will be something along the lines of “I ain’t workin’ with no n****s or f**s!”. We should stop trying to assume that fascists hold themselves to the same moral standards as normal people. These are people who only abstain from using racial and homophobic slurs for fear of legal trouble. They no longer have to fear that.
Hey! I have a story on this to tell, which I will make as anonymous as possible:
Someone I know in an administrative position is in the middle of dealing with an employee who is suddenly refusing to do annual DEI training, claiming that it is against their religious beliefs. They were brought in and given a chance to defend that. Asked what specifically about DEI went against their beliefs. They started spouting a bunch of Fox News crap.
It was pointed out to them that DEI means things like making sure disabled people can get over a raised doorway. The employee said they were fine with that, but went into a whole “gay marriage is sinful” sort of rant. They were told they don’t have to agree with such things, just respect them at work. And they said that was great and one of the things they loved about working there.
Basically, it turned out that they had zero issues with any of the actual DEI policies. They literally objected to those three letters being used.
The SE US and the fact they think we don’t hire them because they are white. It’s cause we know they are racist and we don’t want to deal with the bullshit. Getting rid of DEI won’t get rid of this. Florida, Georgia, and Louisiana+ are staying on the do not contact list for employees and contractors.
Well that’s certainly a discriminatory hiring practice. People don’t choose where they are born and often don’t have the means to leave the terrible place they were born. And people like you not hiring them makes it even harder for them to get out.
Oh no accounts with N***** and F****** don’t get hired. What will the world do without these scions that noone want’s to deal with including coworkers and clients.
If they are using offensive account names, then that’s a valid reason to not hire them. I’m just saying discriminating against an entire region is wrong. I promise you I hate most Floridians and their politics far more than you do, and I was born here.
Move somewhere else. Our clients don’t want you. Your state needs to take notice. If you are in Florida you have some real economic problems.
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I support diversity, equity and inclusion in giving people the chance to get a good education and achieve good outcomes through their own efforts (with good teacher and mentor support).
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For things that are beyond secondary education, I support a race-blind color-blind culture-blind meritocracy where the best qualified people should be admitted to universities and jobs (private or public sector).
These are my ideals. But with that said, today we have none of these in the US. And never had it. Also people and systems created by people are imperfect but people are good at finding loop holes and ways to game any system.
But I still think our best hope is to do our best to support #1. We have the funds to make schools in poor neighborhoods better and pay all teachers more. The outcome of doing #1 will not be felt immediately, it will take generations.
Neither side of the political spectrum does or care about that though.
They probably just think DEI and Affirmative Action are one in the same. I get critiquing the latter cuz it’s a bandaid solution to systemic problems. Solving those would go a long way to fixing the rest of everything wrong with America. Ofc that’s not quite what they have in mind and we all know that
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If you hate the PATRIOT act…etc. Look, titles of things have no bearings on what they actually are. This post is just group masturbation.
I hate the positive discrimination and the forced representation. It’s just bigotry.
I’m am strongly opposed to diversity. We should stop using Windows and macOS and create a monoculture by standardizing on Linux.
You almost got it. GNU/Linux. TFTFY
implying you can shame conservatives
Stay OUT OF GAMES.
Games is for the majority of enjoyers of games. If you are a minority, get a thicker skin or stop interacting with the rest of the gaming community. Shut up or Get out of games.
If you hate games, and want to burn down the gaming industry to the ground, remember that the exact same thing might happen to the things you are forcing into gaming. Just like how Govt mandated only-two biological genders and the complete destruction of USAID and funding for all your DIE initiatives.
Stick your DIE in Hollywood and Access Media and Corpo garbage but stay the hell away from gaming.
What specific changes in games have you so mad? Do tell. I’ve only been a gamer my whole life, but I suppose not wanting to be called a retarded tranny is just too much to ask
Mate one of my favourite games as a kid was tomb raider. My poor ass had more of a problem with her being rich than female. Go taste some fucking glass!
You can tell the argument is empty when all that is needed in retort is “no u”.
Imagine getting upset from just seeing something and telling others to “get a thicker skin” and saying they’re not allowed to enjoy games.
I think it’s important to distinguish between diversity, equity, and inclusion as CONCEPTS and DEI as an organization and initiative.
It is possible to be pro- diversity, equity, and inclusion and be opposed to mismanaged efforts in DEI as a PROGRAM.
This post assumes that DEI as a government initiative is working perfectly and has no downsides, presenting it in a way that closes it off to criticism.
Does every system have to be perfect? Of course not. It’s better to have a system pushing for good that’s imperfect than none at all, but framing it like this is gaslighting and hurts discussion on both sides.
That’s not what this post assumes. This post is aimed at those using DEI as a dog whistle for their disgusting bigotry. Present all the nuance you want but if you’re missing that then you’re turning a blind eye to the blatant racism gaining power and leverage in the US gov today.
to mismanaged efforts in DEI
such as?
It’s even worse in the corporate world. That acronym is usually attached to consultants who would extort huge fees and not really do much of anything towards actual inclusion, equity, or diversity. It would let the company check a box for PR, though.
I think diversity and inclusion is a net benefit to society, I don’t think government is capable to enforce diversity and inclusion in private spaces in any real way. Over time I think market forces will result in that diversity naturally as the companies who hire the best qualified people incisively do better than those who prioritize traits that don’t create better outcomes
I’m not sure what equity is in the context of government enforcement but I’m 100% for equality if opportunity. Maybe someone can help me understand equity in the context of these programs: for instance, what equity programs was Biden promoting for the previous for years?
A friend of mine used to do food runs for his office, where about 40% of the employees were black. The team voted on what they wanted, and they almost always chose Wing Stop because it was popular. Despite this, he was called into a meeting and accused of racial profiling for bringing “fried chicken” to a mostly black workplace. This experience reflects the way DEI programs often operate. They focus almost excessively on race, and identity, and thrive on controversy.
Originally, these initiatives created programs where people who came to companies did so to fix the issues and leave. Apparently that didn’t work./ Instead, they’ve become permanent fixtures in workplaces, incentivized to perpetuate problems rather than solve them. With their continued presence, they encourage reporting and policing of behavior, creating a culture of fear and compliance rather than genuine inclusion.
DEI initiatives have failed. They’ve been in place for several years, yet we always hear constant rhetoric that racism and discrimination is becoming more of a problem? Instead, these programs have probably radicalized more people than any fringe political group. Many now define their views in opposition to their perceived opponents rather than on principles.
Ironically, DEI encourages prejudice. I’ve personally been told to create a bias in favor of minorities to combat existing bias, which only results in a new form of discrimination; it doesn’t eliminate the existing biases. The approach based on “privilege” encouraged me to assume all black people are disadvantaged and all white people are privileged and implicitly biased. Guilt and shame are used as tools to enforce conformity, pressuring people to adopt a specific moral stance while condemning those who don’t. People are praised for being sanctimonious. It’s become popular to call out others while simultaneously making self-righteous shows of one’s own behavior.
Fried chicken and watermelon are southern food, not black food. My partner is from the south, white, and we often eat things like red beans and rice, gumbo and cornbread, etc. Her grandad often brought watermelon into work, because he grew them and wanted to share it with his colleagues. Food isn’t a racial thing it’s a regional thing. Pisses me off when people refer to black food or white food. I personally regard lamb vindaloo as the best savoury food that has ever been made. I’m not Indian. Sorry for going off topic.
That’s not what DEI even is. Ironically DEI and affirmative action was used in only a few select places that were historically so opposed to anyone from a minority group that they HAD to have some others be put in order to allow people with qualifications and aren’t white to enter.
If you want to know the reality of a what a world without DEI looks like, look at what Trump and the republicans have been doing for the past 20 years. They aren’t concerned with qualifications or ‘meritocracy’ despite their ceaseless whining about it. They are the ones actually pulling an actual agenda and will only hire people willing to push it, even if they do so very badly.
If you think Pete Hegseth is qualified as secretary of defense, then you aren’t concerned with qualifications.
Everything about this post reeks of racism.
I’ve seen the Right’s answer to DEI.
They deny that there is/was inequality so they claim that pushing equality gives an unfair advantage.
They say that any perceived inequality is the lack in the sum of experience and expertise.
They say that forced inclusion is unfair on the meritocracy of others.
They also tend to think that racism and sexism are overblown because they are incapable of believing (or it is otherwise too inconvenient for them to believe) that other people actually have problems if they don’t themselves experience them.
Most people who are against DEI are against the “E”.
They believe that equality is the end goal, not equity.
Equality = equal opportunity
Equity = equal outcome
Equity = something you made up?
Equity literally means fairness and impartiality.
It’s just like the anti work stuff, being against antifa, etc. They are openly signaling their intention and the fact they won’t just say they are fascists is childish.
If you’re opposed to DOGE, does that mean you’re opposed to efficiency in government?
If you’re opposed to DOGE It’s like people think that neither side has ever created groups to review efficiency in the government.
You create a task force, review the target, make suggestions, argue them, bring the outcome to congress and then force people to act.
You don’t run around firing people for not bending the knee, locking departments who you don’t have control over out of their systems and install half baked command an control systems all over the money handling departments.
Do you support democracy?
If so then that must mean you support the DPRK.
Yes. Emphatically so.
The more efficient government is, the easier it is to usurp power.
Government should not be efficient, at least not in what the business class calls “efficiency”.
Government is the entity that performs those tasks that need to be done, but nobody wants to do. If those essential tasks can be done “efficiently”, everyone is going to want to get paid for doing them.
Yes I am
I guess it depends on what is efficient.
The “inefficient” splurges, like the moon project, lead to significant scientific advances…balancing people on a knife edge when it comes to healthcare, etc.
