• ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Political Correctness > Woke > CRT > DEI > ??

    Sooner or later somebody’s going to have to admit that they’re just never going to be happy.

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      How many iterations will it take for them to just say what they’re really against: policies that promote empathy and compassion for people who are different

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        That’s the ironic part. Even if we went back to 1800 the vast majority of these angry people wouldn’t be slave owners because they wouldn’t be able to afford it. They’d actually be far more likely to be debt-slaves than own any people themselves. The era they actually want to go back to is an idealized version of the 1950s, when you couldn’t own people but you could call them slurs in public, they had separate drinking fountains, and they lived far away from you. Plus you could hit your wife if dinner didn’t taste perfect, physical and mental abuse was how kids were raised (when you saw them at all), and one income could raise a family.

        Sad how those last six words are the only thing we could agree on and should actually get back to, but it’s cheaper for the owner class to stoke hate.

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          Also you could either shame/harass LGBTQ people into suicide or just casually murder them yourself. And if you had a baby with obvious disabilities, they would be whisked away to an asylum for life and you’d never have to think about them again. Ah, the good old days!

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      Well, not until the people that aren’t exactly like them are doing worse. In fact everyone has to do worse than them

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      Somehow, that evolution accurately captures the cultural progress we’ve made toward racial equality.

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    I was confused about how people were angry about Cathode Ray Tubes at first. Had to search both initialisms to figure out what the post is about.

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    I thought it was CRT -> LCD…

    US politics has too many acronyms and becomes more incomprehensible by the day.

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    It’s been coupled together from the start, but I have been seeing it more often recently, in particular with the whole Boeing fiasco, multiple outlets blaming DEI. Wouldn’t be surprised if Boeing was behind the propaganda efforts to help deflect responsibility.

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      It’s also being used in the Baltimore bridge collapse. Lots of “the boat wouldn’t have hit it if they had more white people on the crew. This was caused by DEI hiring inept crews” and “it’s cuz of all the lazy black people getting hired to work on the bridge. It wouldn’t have collapsed if white people were maintaining it” rhetoric.

      Both of those felt gross to even type out, but I have 100% seen both of them being parroted in response to the collapse.

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        Not only is it gross and racist as you’ve laid out, I think the other purpose the “woke, esg, dei, crt” conspiracy stuff serves is as a thought ender. If a poorly maintained ship loses power and hits a bridge, you might start to think about why the economic incentives and laws are set up in such a way that would allow that to happen. But if someone blames it on dei, well, deep down there’s no way you’re really going to believe that. But it gives you a pressure release for the cognitive dissonance that otherwise might cause you to have to examine your own beliefs. The angrier you get about it, the less reflection you have to do. Especially as we are wired to be tribal, so blaming the screwup on the woke libs feels a lot better than listening and thinking through things.

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      I can see it now " Google how many women and colors were working on Boeing. They didn’t used to be that way"

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    What is DEI? New conspiricy dropped? Heard it couple times over the last days but kinda missed it

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    You guys keep coming up with different names for “not being an asshole”, then some asshole comes and claims it’s some evil scheme because the name’s so fucking obscure that of course dumbasses are going to fall for that shit

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    I forgot what CRT was. It feels like its been years. Critical Race Theory, right? It was just a few months ago they were talking about it though.

    Complaining about education (ex: common core) is pretty common because no one likes change. CRT could at least arguably be seen as a new subject matter / new way of teaching history that people wouldn’t like. But DEI is… like going really mask off now.

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      It stands for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion

      It’s essentially another way to treat minorities more fairly, so (American) conservatives want to get rid of it

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        It’s essentially another way to treat minorities more fairly

        On paper.

        In practice, it’s more bureaucratic wall papering and cya, intended to obscure industry practices that continue to almost exclusively promote through nepotism and political graft.

        Access to government contracts and Senate seats and Ivy League fraternities and Wall Street bank management positions continues to be a White Boys Only club.

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          What flavor of MAGA kool-aid you be sipping? Let me give you some nutrition.

          Before DEI: two candidates, A and B, are equally qualified for a job. Candidate A is a straight white male. Candidate B is woman, person of color, or a member of the LGBTQ+ community. Result: Candidate A will get hired.

          With DEI: two candidates, A and B, are equally qualified for a job. Candidate A is a straight white male. Candidate B is woman, person of color, or a member of the LGBTQ+ community. Result: Candidate B might get hired.

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              “Barnett said he found discarded sharp metal shavings near electrical systems for the flight controls at Boeing’s factory in South Carolina,” darn diversity metal shavings! “Barnett told the BBC that he became aware of faulty installation of the aircraft’s oxygen systems, which could deprive some breathing masks of oxygen in the event of an emergency.” Darn diverse oxygen systems! Sauce

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                  This is such a stretch, and you’re only doing it so you can be a bigot.

                  When bad things happen most people will look for a cause or explanation instead of just blaming black people and women.

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              Lmao how fucking retarded do you have to be to think that the quality problems at Boeing are a result of hiring practices? Holy fuck dude don’t forget to breathe.

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              You think Boing airplanes are falling apart because of some women and black people having worked on them? I want you to know that my 9 year old niece and I are currently laughing at you.

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                Okay, that’s fine, but it’s not going to change my mind.

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              Funny how quickly people forget.

              We didn’t forget, we just never invented this crazy fantasy in our heads in the first place.

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              Incorrect. He was assassinated because he blew the whistle on management cutting corners with QA. Nothing to do with DEI hiring practices. I think you dropped this white hood…

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                Ah yes, that certainly is completely unrelated to management also trying to meet their DEI goals at the same time. Pure coincidence these two things happened at the same time.

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                  A million things were happening at the same time in a company of that size and complexity. So yeah until you can prove a connection (which you haven’t even attempted to do) the rational conclusion is coincidence. You’re a rational person, right?

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              As an aerospace engineer: ahahahahah. Not. Take your insecurities elsewhere. Preferably to a therapist, instead of externalizing your self-hatred.

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                I don’t hate myself. I don’t even hate you or any of the other people giving my shit. You are merely projecting and you should probably take your own advice.

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              Boeing literally had a guy murdered for blowing the whistle on rampant DEI

              DEI is when you outsource to the lowest bidder

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                Correction: it’s how you SELL outsourcing to the lowest bidder.

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                  Normally, companies don’t want to reduce labor costs. But with DEI, we can trick them into it?

                  Was the problem with McDonald Douglas also the number of PoCs on payroll?

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              Even with DEI practices, white straight males still hold a strong majority of the upper management positions; so whenever you hear about the evils of DEI while indulging in your daily Fox News, Daily Wire, or Newsmax, remember that the buck stops with some white straight males. Hence why blaming DEI for a decrease in quality makes no logical sense.

              Most doctors are still straight white males. Most airline pilots are still straight white males. Most of the people who are making major company decisions are still straight white males.

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            Ah yes, brilliant argument. You have completely convinced me of the error of my ways. /s

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              No one can convince you of anything. You’re clearly set in your opinion, which is 100% incorrect. Your ability to parse new information is already shut down by your stubborn attachment to the narrative that white people are being oppressed.

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              You haven’t made a rational argument so why are you whining when you don’t get rational answers? Make an argument backed by actual evidence.

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          I taught engineering courses for 10 years and have worked in the field longer than that, and I can assure you there is rarely a such thing as a “most competent person for the job.” Especially once you get to the highest levels of performance.

          I can also assure you that teams which are allowed to stay familiar and homogeneous (eg, a bunch of bros who live together) and are never pushed to include diversity of experience and background rarely achieve anything notable compared to teams who are pushed beyond their cultural comfort zones. Anecdotally, the effect could not be more clear, and there’s plenty of peer reviewed literature documenting this.

          Tl;Dr - mechanical diversity has intrinsic value. Read a book

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          on steroids

          HR: “Hey, just for our records, are you a minority?”

          Me: “I’m 1/64th Cherokee”

          HR: “Close enough!”

          Corporate PR Department: “We are a Majority First Nations run business.”

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      Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Conservatives have been going hard after diversity programs. They’ve been banned in state educational institutions in Texas.

      I ended up adding a whole section in my course syllabus that’s basically a middle finger to the new rules and makes is clear that intolerance is not welcome in my class.

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      It’s another thing they’ll tell you isn’t happening at all but if it is then it’s a good thing, and if you don’t like it, you’re racist.

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            Racist isn’t an insult, it’s an applicable qualifier. You don’t call someone a racist just because you don’t like them. Equating it to name calling makes it look like you don’t even know what the word means.

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    bro crts are gone how is there moral panic about it. and what the fuck is dei? I thought the big thing now was oleds.

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    Wait a minute, guys… does this mean we stopped brainwashing kids to be trans? Let’s make sure we’re all on the same page of the playbook.

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    We got real close to “15 minute cities” but that doesn’t light up the outrage centers of the brain like DEI I guess. Shame.

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    I thought they were pissing about something else between CRT and DEI, but I can’t remember what it was. Shows you how shallow their rage machine actually is

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          It’s never been a slur, it’s literally a scientific term. It would be like getting pissed someone called you a sapian, or a mammal. It’s just snowflakes being mad they aren’t considered the default, or “normal”

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              First of all, if you think dumb is a slur than you deserve to be called dumb. You also deserve to be called dumb for comparing cis to these lol.

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                  My God, you are just being deliberately obtuse at this point. No one calling someone dumb is using it in that way and you know it. I’m not going to continue a discussion with someone arguing in bad faith.

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          Sure, the horrible slur of * checks notes * accurately getting described as part of the heteronormative majority

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            It’s insane, they think if they don’t like the label it automatically becomes a slur. The comment I responded to was even claiming calling someone dumb is a slur. Its mind boggling how people who have no idea what they are talking about think it’s a good idea to try and correct/lecture others.

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    DEI as I understand it right now means I’m expected to start giving a shit about what color people are and I simply will not do that.

    Open to being corrected on if there’s a version of this that doesn’t have me categorizing people by skin color.