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    Or go to a bar and say hi to people who are hanging around. Compliment someone’s jacket. Tell someone that their whole aesthetic is cool as fuck. Comment on the weather. Become a part of your local environment and interact with your fellow humans. Join a hiking or hobby group.

    Work is actually one of the worst places to get your social enrichment. You’re significantly more likely to change jobs than cities and your innie is less likely to feel like your true self. Furthermore there’s a baseline mental taxation of being at work that doesn’t come with being in a social environment. And nobody’s going to come up to you at a social event and tell you to get back to work.

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      Or go to a bar and say hi to people who are hanging around. Compliment someone’s jacket. Tell someone that their whole aesthetic is cool as fuck. Comment on the weather. Become a part of your local environment and interact with your fellow humans. Join a hiking or hobby group.

      Nah, I’m good thanks

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        Fair enough, it will help with loneliness though. And I’ll acknowledge it’s hard and awkward at first, but it’s a skill and it’s one I think many people would appreciate developing. It’s like getting in shape but for the social part of the self.

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          Even if I felt lonely, none of those things are how I would start talking to anyone.

          When I’m in public I wish to be left alone. It would be a violation of the Golden Rule for me to start talking to randos about their outfits or the weather.

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    9 hours ago

    Yeah, when I’m looking for sound mental health advice, I ask a CEO. Doesn’t everyone?

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        CEOs almost never have the skills and experience in actually doing the work of their company. I and other techs have had to do IT work for the CEOs of our IT support company. Plus one of them accidentally opened a phishing email.

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    This person is purposely being controversial for attention, they don’t truly think this, nor is there any evidence productivity has gone down due to remote work.

    Going into the office every day is a scam.

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    This person probably goes to the office and sits in her own private room by herself, because she can’t focus with the loud plebs on the big open office floor

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      This person arrives at 10, has a 1.5hour lunch, talks loudly around other people, leaves at 2 because needs to pick up the dog from the dog sitter, complains people are never in the office, only shows up 2 days a week if you’re unlucky, 0 days if you’re lucky.

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    If my next job is office only. I’m strictly only using a desktop PC. You can give me a travel laptop. But I’m never taking it home.

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      office only

      but bob, it’s a corporate retreat, we’re all going, grab your laptop

      “FUCK YOU TODD, WHEN I WAS HIRED THE POSITION WAS OFFICE ONLY. GO FUCK YOURSELF AND YOUR RETREAT”

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    13 hours ago

    “Hi, I’m a shitty person who has an opinion that is self-serving. Let me tell you what I think.”

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    I suspect this is mainly because almost all of the CEOs I’ve met are workaholics, and being “at work” is the only way they can self-validate.

    And remember, most of them are dark-personality traits, which explains why they cannot understand why you don’t want to go in

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    “Hard truth I learned as a CEO: Sometimes you have to lie to get what you want, regardless of reality and facts”

    Anyone who thinks more work gets done in the office is an idiot, or lying.

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      Eh, it depends. I find that there is a benefit in highly collaborative projects or in an environment where training is a component.

      For instance, a lot of data showed that junior staff productivity tanked as they didn’t have the mentoring opportunities that they would have had in a full remote environment.

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        I am the team lead and architect for my group. We have green engineers and interns. The other day my team was publically acknowledged as being one of the most productive and well oiled teams because of the detail I put in. On a weekly basis I am doing mentoring activities and 1 on 1s with everyone. And I still find time to be writing specs, design documents, code, and hour of meetings.

        It requires very little effort. What I have found is that the vast number of leads and managers just aren’t good at teaching or helping others. It’s not a face to face issue. It’s soft skills, logistics, and actually wanting a good team issue. All I am doing is the opposite of what all my bad managers did.

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          Maybe, but I find that my staff benefits from several daily discussions and that interaction generally doesn’t happen over the Internet. My staff are more proactive at asking me questions if I’m physically there than over Teams.

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        right now I am hiding in a call booth in my office on our one in person day a week because the rest of the office is singing along to achy breaky heart while two junior employees throw lifesaver mints at each other.

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            one CXO is playing the music, the COO hides in the corner by the swag storage, the CEO has a private office not connected to the main bullpen, the two VPs don’t care or are joining in

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              At that point, it sounds like the group’s culture that you’re in isn’t a good fit for you, and I can understand your frustration that you have to go into work to suffer this.

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                eh it’s one day a week and I’m respected and appreciated in other contexts it’s just the one day because the boss is convinced it enables the team.

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        Do many people get mentored in the office? I have worked for decades and have never been mentored.

        Edit: I assume random, one off comments don’t count as mentoring. “Don’t put your feed up on the desk” isn’t mentoring right?

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          Depends on the career. As an engineer I really wish we’d quit our decentralized bullshit and just form a guild or union so that after university you join an official apprenticeship rather than find a job looking for people without experience willing to train. The whole x years of experience is often really asking how much mentorship do you need and are you able to lead projects.

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          In my industry, it is very common. It is generally accepted that a large part of senior staff’s time is reviewing the work of junior staff to make the work better. A lot of that requires teaching junior staff how to perform the work correctly.

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    I could spend 3 hours a day on a train and do teams meetings in the office, or i could not do 3 hours a day on trains and do teams meetings at home.

    I was paying £550 a month in train tickets before covid freed me

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      It amazes me that leaders don’t get this. My office is filled with separate one-sided calls and it’s unbearable. Furthermore I’ve not been in a meeting without Silicon Valley listening in in at least 5 years.

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        They do get it but they don’t care. They want you to be uncomfortable and miserable because it keeps up the value of their commercial real estate portfolio .

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          Also tax breaks. Many large corpos negotiated city tax breaks for bringing a certain number of employees into downtowns. If those numbers don’t meet minimums, the tax breaks go away.
          Any we all know how much time, effort and expense a business person will go through to avoid paying $1 in taxes.

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          It makes sense, but what would be even more valuable for real estate is if we gave up on crampt open plan offices and give people some space 😅

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    Ah yes. The lament of the middle managers with nothing to do. They feel threatened because it turns out they weren’t needed after all.

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      I work from home, and my manager works from home also. He’s not even in the same country as me.

      Not all middle management has a thing for insisting people work from the office.

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        Middle managers don’t have power to insist such things. Daddy CEO makes these calls with a lot of fanfare

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    Lol, immediately revealing that for her work is only pointless zoom meetings. Real productivity there ms CEO 😑