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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutānāpaste it into its own post ā thereās no quota for posting and the bar really isnāt that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
Ok I have to say, I despise aella but as a promiscuous woman I completely fail to see whatās supposed to be the problem with this particular form of play. That people like having casual sex? That they have slut pride? What.
I probably passed the 100 mark myself several years ago, Iāve hooked up with girls with much more obvious slut tattoos too, and weāre all antifascist anarchists. Is this community ok with sneering at public sexuality now?
The only thing I found vaguely mid in that X is using a tattoo gun rather than scarification, branding, or at least stick-and-poke. But I donāt kink-shame people for being casuals.
Personally I like sex work and amateur tattooing better when they arenāt part of some convoluted attempt at rationalist virtue signalling on social media. Honestly itās kind of weird that you landed on disapproval of promiscuity as the reason anyone here would find the happy couple sneerable.
Not strictly related to the OP but fuck kink-washing sfba rationalism, at the very least the attempted normalization of non-con sex play in a subculture as inundated with cult dynamics as them should be fair game.
I cannot understand the reason yāall find the couple sneerable, as I look at that tweet and see something I very much would have done to one of my partners if they asked, and the language used by the bottom as the same language my partners might have used to describe the activity. If anything itās very much on the tame side, for our standards. Promiscuity is me trying to understand what is it thatās so sneerable in the first place. Is it just ālol sex thing weirdā? Is it āyouāll regret your tattoo when you get olderā? Me and my girls have done so much more intensely weirder sex things and more risquĆ© tattoos. I expect to be ridiculed for it by like, cishet right-wing men, but to find that type of attitude here was shocking.
Like, āvirtue signallingā as in the thing that rats accuse us of doing every time we have a motivation they cannot comprehend such as basic empathy, right? As in the rationalistās stereotypically verbose euphemism for what previous generations of misogynistic male nerds used to call āattention whoringā? Is that the sneerable thing then, that people like showing off when they do an unusual sex thing? Because if so I have like, years of mastodon flirty banter yāall can go sneer at, if weāre branching out from ānerdy fascism badā to ākink on main badā.
The guy goes by the handle RatOrthodox, calls rationalism his religion in the replies, seems kind of a cult-brained ideologue anyway based on his other tattoos, and went out of his way to make boinking aella into a public achievement/trophy thing.
This is just from the OP, I bet I could find any number of additional absolutely ridiculous things about him if I bothered with his twitter feed (edit: someone else did). Basically he seems like sneer incarnate, and if rationalists ever stormed the capitol building I bet heād be the one with the face paint and the horned fur hat giving interviews.
Virtue signaling is not really interchangeable with attention whoring, itās when you specifically (and usually clumsily) want people to notice that you are part of an ingroup, and in this case the ingroup definitely isnāt just people who like amateur tattooing and horny post on main.
Maybe I should explicitly note that unless this turns out to be another aella publicity stunt she does seem pretty incidental to the whole thing and her only fault appears to be being attractive this type of weirdo in the first place, which Iām not blaming her for.
are you aware of what discussion group youāre posting this to
Think you are right, and tbh I didnāt read this as a kink thing but more some weird glorifying Aella as some sort of important cult leader thing (and misread it and assumed it had to do with the flowchart event, and not this (which I should have noticed was wrong as there were less than 100 people involved in that, for which a āI was nr 100ā is quite odd to me (and fits into the whole cultleader vibe))). A reason why I only focused on the guy myself.
And you are totally correct that people sneer on Aella way to much just because she is {a woman, sex worker, a bit strange, unapologetic about being a sex worker, has sex the wrong way, {more weird reasons unrelated to her being part of the āwe should do eugenics!ā crowd}} (pick any that apply). And have mentioned this before in other places. (oddly enough this caused somebody on bsky to just go full anti sex worker, so that was an easy block at least). But yes you are right to call us out on this.
My stance is that I hate Aella because she exploits her life experience to be a disgusting misogynist and it is morally correct to kinkshame unpleasant heterosexual men who associate with the rationalist sex cult. Iām not interested in other peopleās hangups beyond that.
oh, no, to be clear: this isnāt about the sex/sluttiness - I have no issue with that at all. in a more general sense (over the wider set of things aella), her positioning herself as a āsex researcherā but often using that to bash specific groups or put out a specific narrative, that is far more problematic
but regarding this specific thing, tho: the āforced a tattoo on meā bit specifically, and all the rationalists doing their weird quasi-intellectual arguing with everyone who asks questions. the āforcedā wording feels ā¦ intentionally bait&switch? presumably (ā¦hopefully?) thereās mutual consent here, so itās a fucking choice to go frame the event that way
Thatās very much the language my play partners use online, though? I totally post banter like āthat submissive was so blanked out that I took advantage of them by doing Xā, to which theyāll reply āimplying I didnāt evily manipulated you into doing that in the first placeā, and so on. This is so commonplace in my communities that I failed to even understand what could be the problem before you pointed it out. I mean, āI forced my famous domme to mark me as a trophy as her #100 simpā? How would you exactly force (non-kink sense) someone to tattoo you anyway, and if you did and were unwise enough to brag about it, presumably the microcelebrity in question wouldnāt like and retweet it? I took it to mean āI was so into the idea of being marked, Iām glad she agreed to my pesteringā, and I would bet money if any of my people talked in that exact wording, thatās what everyone would take it as. I mean, otherwise I would probably have been arrested for the frequency of times I say ābye everyone gonna tie someone up and do unspeakably cruel things to themā and whatnot
I think in this thread itās not āthis thing is gross because it involves sex stuffā, itās āthis sex stuff is made gross by the involvement of aella and co, who we understand to have fundamentally different and incorrect ideas about ethics both in general and specific to sexā
Basically anything Aella touches merits a sniff test.
Iām imagining the same statement from a different person, on a platform that is not Xitter, about a sex partner who is not Aella.
(thinks)
Pierre Menard, author of the Kink-ote
Gotta say, Iām not much of a JLB head, so I donāt fully understand this (would love an explainer!). At first glance I thought this was a Menards reference and super didnāt understand.
āPierre Menard, Author of the Quixoteā is a story about a man whose passion project is rewriting Don Quixote, that is, arriving at exactly the same text as Cervantes, but from his own experiences. The narrator quotes the same line from both and observes that the remark by Cervantes is empty rhetoric, while the statement by Menard alludes to a whole school of philosophy that did not exist in Cervantesā time. So, āThough they are verbally identical, Menardās is infinitely richer.ā
I wasnāt going for a deep-lore reference, just a bit of silly wordplay about the title.