Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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    oh, no, to be clear: this isn’t about the sex/sluttiness - I have no issue with that at all. in a more general sense (over the wider set of things aella), her positioning herself as a ā€œsex researcherā€ but often using that to bash specific groups or put out a specific narrative, that is far more problematic

    but regarding this specific thing, tho: the ā€œforced a tattoo on meā€ bit specifically, and all the rationalists doing their weird quasi-intellectual arguing with everyone who asks questions. the ā€œforcedā€ wording feels … intentionally bait&switch? presumably (…hopefully?) there’s mutual consent here, so it’s a fucking choice to go frame the event that way

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      That’s very much the language my play partners use online, though? I totally post banter like ā€œthat submissive was so blanked out that I took advantage of them by doing Xā€, to which they’ll reply ā€œimplying I didn’t evily manipulated you into doing that in the first placeā€, and so on. This is so commonplace in my communities that I failed to even understand what could be the problem before you pointed it out. I mean, ā€œI forced my famous domme to mark me as a trophy as her #100 simpā€? How would you exactly force (non-kink sense) someone to tattoo you anyway, and if you did and were unwise enough to brag about it, presumably the microcelebrity in question wouldn’t like and retweet it? I took it to mean ā€œI was so into the idea of being marked, I’m glad she agreed to my pesteringā€, and I would bet money if any of my people talked in that exact wording, that’s what everyone would take it as. I mean, otherwise I would probably have been arrested for the frequency of times I say ā€œbye everyone gonna tie someone up and do unspeakably cruel things to themā€ and whatnot

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        I think in this thread it’s not ā€œthis thing is gross because it involves sex stuffā€, it’s ā€œthis sex stuff is made gross by the involvement of aella and co, who we understand to have fundamentally different and incorrect ideas about ethics both in general and specific to sexā€

        Basically anything Aella touches merits a sniff test.

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          I’m imagining the same statement from a different person, on a platform that is not Xitter, about a sex partner who is not Aella.

          (thinks)

          Pierre Menard, author of the Kink-ote

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            Gotta say, I’m not much of a JLB head, so I don’t fully understand this (would love an explainer!). At first glance I thought this was a Menards reference and super didn’t understand.

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              ā€œPierre Menard, Author of the Quixoteā€ is a story about a man whose passion project is rewriting Don Quixote, that is, arriving at exactly the same text as Cervantes, but from his own experiences. The narrator quotes the same line from both and observes that the remark by Cervantes is empty rhetoric, while the statement by Menard alludes to a whole school of philosophy that did not exist in Cervantes’ time. So, ā€œThough they are verbally identical, Menard’s is infinitely richer.ā€

              I wasn’t going for a deep-lore reference, just a bit of silly wordplay about the title.