Or less common opinions that you’ve been waiting for a chance to share?

Apologies if this has been asked before; I didn’t see it among recent posts and I like to hear everyone’s hot takes.

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    hentai that depicts things that would be illegal and/or unethical for live actors is fine, actually. Fictional characters are not people, and do not need protection like real people do. It is ok if you don’t like it, you don’t have to watch it, nobody was hurt in the making of it so it’s fine. Furthermore, just as it has been proven time and time again that violent video games do not create mass murderers, porn doesn’t create rapists. The ability to separate reality from fiction is critical to being a functional adult.

    a caveat:

    If the fictional character is an obvious stand in for a specific real person, or if the character was specifically drawn to have the likeness of a specific real person, then there might actually be problems.

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    When you post on the internet you shouldn’t assume everyone knows what country you’re from and understands your country in detail.

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    Most women would be more willing to have casual sex if it was safer, and women are just as horny as men. Gay hook up culture is a utopia straight people could have if a woman being “easy” didn’t put her in danger - physically, emotionally, or socially. Pregnancy (especially with fear of stealthing), stalking and damages to social reputation are huge concerns with women, and collectively in most cultures many men shoot themselves in the foot here.

    Orientation is fluid, and sometimes the people that you have sex with are not people you would want to be in relationships with. There are piles and piles of “straight men” who actively seek out sexual encounters with other men. Social stigma hampers men here to.

    Organized BDSM communities tend to get taken over by dangerous people. Frameworks and rules don’t override unhealthy dynamics.

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      I sometimes think about how calling girls sluts is counter productive. If women would not be judged for having sex then it would not be so taboo to just hookup.

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      I think the element of danger in heterosexual female sexuality is a thing, but I also don’t think it’s as big of a cause for women’s general preference for…. Choosiness? As you may think.

      Every woman I’ve ever known that’s decided to experiment with other women has told me how confused and frustrated they are at how difficult it is to find another woman to fuck.

      Like. If danger was the only reason, either with physical safety or stds or pregnancy, you’d expect to see the lesbian community as slutty as the gay male community. And it just…. Isn’t.

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        But that’s assuming this is solely a man/woman issue and not an issue of cultural learning. It’s not just that women are physically smaller than men and thus there is a real potential biological danger, it’s that there is a culture that has been prescribed to these women with deep roots woven widely across society. When a woman decides to start having sex with other women, she doesn’t suddenly walk away from all that cultural learning; that baggage comes with her. So even if it was always male voices screaming words like “slut” and “whore,” those words are still ingrained in her psyche even as she turns her attention toward other women.

        Imo, there’s a lot more nuance to the topic, and a big part of the reason why gay men frequently have more sex than gay women has a lot more to do with cultural differences regarding agency and reputation than anything intrinsic to our biology.

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          Sure.

          I think evolution likely plays a bigger role than culture here imo. Though. I have fuck all to back that up.

          From a strictly biological sense pregnancy is risky and millions of years of evolution doesn’t go away simply because one rationally knows they can’t get pregnant or because they like girls.

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      BDSM communities make great hunting grounds for predators, so they attract them unfortunately

      They’re often charismatic and present themselves as authorities

      I have nothing to do with my local scene. It’s too small and I’ve observed it from the outside

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      Yeah it’s unbelievable the amount of shaming there is around sex, and I agree with you that women are judged more harshly than men when thier sexuality falls outside what society deems acceptable.

      On a related note, it really grinds my fuckin’ gears that society tends to think there’s something wrong with someone if they express sexuality outside what’s deemed acceptable.

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        I don’t know if women are judged more harshly than men by american society as a whole for their sexual preferences.

        It feels to me that it’s either close to the same or a little bit in women’s favor.

        I’m sure there are extremes that make anything I’m saying completely invalid, but if you isolate the center of the bell curve, I feel like the women get slightly better treatment than men do.

        For instance, if you’re a guy and you’re hanging out with your bros and you see two women walk by and your bro goes, hey, those two women are lesbians and they sleep with each other. You are, as a bog standard, heterosexual American man, more likely to say, “Nice!” than “Gross!”

        Whereas if you are told two men are gay with each other, as a bog-standard heterosexual American man, you are more likely to say “Gross!” than “Nice!”

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          Make no mistake I definately think men are judged for their sexuality. What I originally said was from a cishet perspective so there’s a lot of room for me to be wrong.

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      I think most women get in relationships way faster, is part of the issue. All of the women past a certain age are racing against time, and searching for marriage.

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        My experience with casual sex as an adult was that it was readily available to me, but as soon as I said I was going to start dating for real, my casual guys (who I specifically was with because I figured they didn’t get attached) wanted to date. Me. I was surprised, to put it mildly.

        I haven’t ever felt like I was racing against time, though. Had kids because I wanted them, and wasn’t interested in marriage, got married in my late 40s because my now husband wanted to pretty bad, and because, since I had kids and he did, it made sense, stepparent is a stronger legal status than “mom’s boyfriend”.

        Maybe I’m an outlier but maybe not. It always seemed to me that marriage advantages men more than women.

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          Oh yea. Men compartmentalize like that. Sometimes sex has nothing to do with romance, sometimes they get too close from being with you for a long time.

          I’m personally curious about both things.

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        Not in the slightest

        A big factor is the society in which you live, so perhaps in a more religious place like 'Murica that carries some weight, but I assure you that it’s not like that whatsoever where I live

        I’m more of a marrying type than my fiancée, and I always have been

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    Onlyfans killed porn content on internet and the way this is normalized in everyday life.

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      Did it? I seldom watch porn but there is still plenty of free and studio content available on the internet. Admitting you have an OnlyFans in everyday life (in person) is usually going to be met with judgement rather than acceptance, and people have lost their jobs after the discovery of their OnlyFans.

      Maybe you meant that it has become very common for users in NSFW communities to have an OnlyFans, which is true, but it’s only really annoying if they spam their content in communities where it doesn’t belong or try to bait you into buying it after initiating what seems like a normal conversation. Even then it’s easy to block them.

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        to some people think its the intent of the post that kills it(e.g whether something is very candid shot vs meant to act as an advertisement, which of course you should know how contentious ads can be). its why on reddit, some subreddits explicitly ban said content. that seperation is a reletively contrevertial topic.

        of course, this is also seperate from subreddits that are controlled by possibly industry people banning any user who posts OF content.

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          If a user is posting nudes in a community where they are relevant, why does it bother people whether their goal is to have fun showing themselves off or to get new subscribers, unless you felt entitled to their content being made for your entertainment without any benefit to them? It’s like watching a porno that you searched for and then being upset that the actors are getting paid instead of doing it for the thrill of it.

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            It’s the incel entitlement

            If the performer is an “amateur”, they can imagine themselves with a chance of winning them romantically, but the second money enters the scene, they see them as a “whore”, and therefore less valuable

            I personally want to see amateur spaces kept seller-free, but unless it’s specifically amateurs only, then they have just as much right to post as anyone else

            It’s the internet. Incels have always felt like they can judge women, the internet unfortunately gave them a new way of doing it, and a voice that they can inflict on others

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          The thing with creating content, whether it’s OF, or not, it takes effort

          It may be less polished, but there’s still setting up a camera, getting the lighting and angles decent etc.

          Not to mention editing out the start and finish, cleaning up afterwards (thank fuck for tiled floors, leather upholstery etc…)

          Even though I’m not selling, I still put effort into what I make

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    Let’s see here. Hard to gauge popularity on this kind of thing, but I’ve run into anything from steady disagreement to outright abuse for some.

    Prostitution should be legal, and well regulated for the protection of sex workers.

    The age of consent isn’t, or shouldn’t be, about the empty idea of protecting kids, it’s supposed to be about picking an age where the individual should have the freedom to exercise their right to body autonomy, no matter who they choose to exercise it with.

    Most kink is boring as hell, and too much attention gets paid to it outside of those that enjoy any given kink.

    Any person should have the freedom to give up consent ahead of time, though it would have to be regulated and require documentation to prevent misuse of that freedom by assholes.

    Anal is over rated, and even with prep isn’t worth the extra mess and hassle.

    Most people wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between a given hole in the dark unless there’s a mustache involved. A mouth is a mouth, an ass is an ass. If you don’t know there’s a man or a woman behind the hole, you would perform just fine.

    I really don’t care where you stick your dick, or what dick you take; if there’s no physical injury involved, you can fuck your dog and it’s none of anyone else’s business. Only reason it matters beyond that is if the dog gets in the habit of trying to fuck other people. Same with any other animal; just because it’s gross doesn’t make it my business.

    Power imbalances only matter if they’re abused. No need to poke our collective noses into things until that happens.

    IDGAF how big of an age gap there is, once both parties have reached the arbitrary age of consent, it’s none of my business, or anyone else’s. It isn’t automatically bad either.

    Also, as an adjoining thing to unpopular sex opinions, even really weird opinions aren’t automatically bad or a sign of something wrong. Sometimes people just don’t agree with the majority. Other times, the majority is wrong. If you can’t point directly to an automatic form of harm regarding whatever that opinion is, chances are that you’re reacting to the social mores you’ve absorbed rather than having formed your opinion with thought and care.

    Edit: one last one!

    Your body count doesn’t say anything about you other than that you’ve fucked a lot. Pussies don’t get worn out from use, neither do dicks. Get tested, use condoms, and stop being a judgy asshole.

    Edit 2: my brain is catching up

    You don’t have to be enthusiastic about sex. It’s okay to just consent to make the other person happy, as long as it isn’t being pressured into agreeing. Even then, it’s okay for the person that’s agreeing, it’s the one applying pressure that’s a jerk

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      A dog is a conscious animal and cannot give informed consent. Purely in a mental capacity standing, a dog is about as intelligent as a toddler and a toddler also cannot give consent because, you know it’s a toddler. Sex with an animal is, by definition, rape and should be seen as such.

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        Yeah, I’m not playing debate club here. That’s not what this thread was about. You’re welcome to your opinion, and if it was somewhere else, I might discuss it further. But it isn’t, so I’m not

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      Appreciate you posting opinions that are actually controversial. I agree with the majority of them, particularly the ones that boil down to “it’s no one’s business what consenting adults do in their private lives”.

      What criteria, in your opinion, have to be met for an individual to be given the freedom to exercise bodily autonomy?

      Even if an individual says they consent, even if they show enthusiasm, there is a point where their consent is not seen as valid neither morally nor legally. Whether that point is defined by age or intellectual capacity, why shouldn’t it extend to animals as well?

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        On consent:

        I’ve seen way too many people making consent a very complicated matter (and since a while ago, in some countries, its even law), some going as far as wanting it in written for .

        I think it’s more important to SAY no than it is to say yes.

        I think we need to teach guys that it’s important to get consent, but also how to recognize it, as not all consent is verbal, it’s not how human beings work and yes, that means women too.

        In a similar fashion, it’s important to teach women to be clear about consent, that they know it’s okay to say no, but also that it’s important to SAY no if and when they’re uncomfortable and want out. Sometimes you just want quiet quick banging, no words, and definitely no review of what is okay in the next five minutes

        Written, or sometimes even verbal consent simply isn’t feasible in real life. Say no!

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        Honestly, my line in reality is different from a hypothetical one.

        In a perfect world, the point when someone is ready internally should be enough. The problem is that it isn’t a perfect world, so you run into someone making choices that can cause other people problems.

        So I draw the line where the person could potentially function as a parent on a physical level. Somewhere in the late teens. Like, at 14, not only is childbirth physically risky, but neither genetic contributor is going to realistically be able to handle everything that goes with taking care of an infant.

        Condoms exist, so that does mitigate things, but I have only rarely known early teens with the reliability to always use protection. I sure as hell wasn’t reliable back then in that regard, which means my partners weren’t either.

        So, I tend to favor 16 as the bare minimum. Before then, the possibility of a new human suffering from bad decisions is just too high. If it weren’t for the increased risks around pregnancy and the impact to the offspring, I wouldn’t have a cutoff hypothetically. I’m big on body autonomy.

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      All holes are not equal. Anal is just one smooth tube & doesn’t stimulate my equipment much so I don’t see the point in bothering. The front has more… texture.

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        You know, I misunderstood what you were saying, and wrote up a response based on that.

        But, yeah, I’m with you on that :)

        For me it isn’t only the stimulation. It’s okay in that regard. Better than my own hand at least. But all the prep and lube and cleanup just isn’t worth the meh level of stimulation.

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    Unpopular to the outside world: Pegging and anal is more enjoyable for a male “receiver” and should be standard sexual practice.

    Unpopular for this community: there are some kinks that are objectively distasteful, unhealthy, and bad. And we (as a society) should get together and get those people therapy, not play sessions.

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    Probably a pretty normal opinion for a lady, but based on the content here apparently an unpopular one on NSFW.

    Stories > Non explicit stills > Explicit stills > Video

    Video is usually the least sexy porn. Even if it’s one I enjoy. It’s almost an inverse relationship, the less work my own mind has to do, the less stimulating it is.

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      Never mind that virtually all the videos do the exact same things, following some “rough sex” checklist. They’re all “fuck,” and very few “making love.” It’s no wonder incels have such screwed up ideas about sex.

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          Real amateur stuff is definitely the best

          My fiancée has really grown in confidence since she started posting stuff and got positive feedback

          She knows that I think she’s the most beautiful woman in the world, but she also says that I’m biased!

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            I say this too, tell my husband “you see with the eyes of love, you are not objective” and think it’s true.

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              She has guys hitting on her all the time, she’s had a guy publicly propose to her recently (he knows about me, they have never had a relationship, but he’s rich and just expects to get what he wants), and she’s on the receiving end of constant attention from people

              I’m here for her, to worship her through her insecurities

              She has even specifically posted content of the things she doesn’t like about herself so that she can heal herself

              It’s working! She can’t quite understand that what she sees as flaws are things that I just don’t notice, but it’s the same with me

              She’s an amazing woman, and I’m the luckiest bastard on Earth

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          Yeah, I think the supernormalization factor is like the biggest indicator that capitalism has invaded pornography.

          In like the 1970s, two people having sex was enough for it to count as porn. They would be hairy and dirty and the sex was not amazing and spectacular, but it was almost always people just really enjoying each other on film.

          Then they realized that videos did better if all of the participants were conventionally attractive. And to a large part, that’s fine. I mean, I’m not particularly interested in seeing people that I am not attracted to naked.

          But then they realized that the more extreme the sexual proportions of the bodies are, the better the video did, and the more money they would make, so now the girl has to be 4’9" with 74 ZZZ breasts.

          The guy doesnt matter at all as long as he has a huge cock.

          And it’s exciting, the first time you’re exposed to this brand of media, but it does not take very long for it to become repetitive

          To fight that they started putting in stories, but the stories are terrible.

          The available plotlines are, hot girl has sex, incest, cheating, raceplay, or prostitution, and they’re always very poorly acted out because they’re just a pretext to allow sex to happen.

          Its all so boring and stale.

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            Maybe it’s just because so much porn is full of conventionally hot women but i definitely prefer it if I don’t find the people attractive. Like. I don’t know why but it’s always better that way.

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      I think chats and doing favors are the hottest. I have seen it all, and it’s really hard to be turned on by just a sexy body.

      But the thought of making someone else wet…god yes!

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      I’m with you on this one. Content that allows you to use imagination lets you fill in the gaps to your liking and put yourself in the scenario. With video, it’s harder to mentally filter out the parts that don’t interest you, and videos will rarely be exactly what you want from start to finish.

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      Stories have a lower cost of production, which also permits for a wider variety of topics to be covered.

      Thr lower the cost of production, the better you can do a better job of covering the long tail, providing smaller quantities of stuff that’s more niche or specialized, and have a smaller pool of people who are interested in it.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_tail

      In business, the term long tail is applied to rank-size distributions or rank-frequency distributions (primarily of popularity), which often form power laws and are thus long-tailed distributions in the statistical sense. This is used to describe the retailing strategy of selling many unique items with relatively small quantities sold of each (the “long tail”)—usually in addition to selling fewer popular items in large quantities (the “head”).

      Anderson cites research published in 2003 by Erik Brynjolfsson, Yu (Jeffrey) Hu, and Michael D. Smith, who first used a log-linear curve on an XY graph to describe the relationship between Amazon.com sales and sales ranking. They showed that the primary value of the internet to consumers comes from releasing new sources of value by providing access to products in the long tail.[10]

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    Porn is a terrible way to learn about kink

    Fisting is a great example of misrepresentation, anal is another obvious one

    You can’t just jump straight into things

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      Agree! Porn was never meant to be a substitute for sexual education and there is rarely emphasis on foreplay or aftercare.

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        The problem is, at least in America, there is no discussion about sex.

        Most parents are too prudish to sit down with their children and have a healthy discussion about sex with their child, no matter how old the child is. You could be 65 years old and your parents would still not want to talk about sex with you.

        Pretty much all of the kids you grow up with know diddly squat about sex themselves, and unless you happen to have one kid in your group whose parents aren’t prudes and talk to them about sex, then pretty much the only way you can learn about sex is by watching it happen in porn.

        Kind of seems like that’s an opportunity for a side business. You could be a for hire sex education person. Alternatively, maybe you could teach a community class or create like an online sex education series.

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    Unpopular? Would that require me to get more downvotes than up?

    Prostitution: legalize it and tax it. Afford them the same benefits as other self employed workers at least. Besides it’s legal to pay for sex as long as you record it (making porn).

    Beastiality: if you harm the animal there are animal welfare laws. If you want to be weird with Flossy the sheep go ahead, just close the barn door so I don’t have to see it.

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      In regards to bestiality, I’m okay with it if the human is one receiving. fucking an animal is not okay with me as there is no way for the animal to consent. I read a newspaper article where a guy was caught fucking a mare because she became skittish around the male owner. The horse obviously did not enjoy it.

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        They don’t consent to being killed for food either, but noone seems to care then.

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          I mean, when it comes to killing for food we see it as justified due to it being ‘needed’ for our survival, so we consider it a necessary evil.

          I don’t necessarily think having sex with a sheep is amongst any of our survival needs though

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      I’ve found it amusing when bestiality laws explicitly exempt artificial insemination and other ‘customary’ animal husbandry practices. It’s completely legal to fondle your livestock when your motive is profit. Do it for love and go to prison, sicko. It’s almost the exact opposite of human-human prostitution laws.

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    Meritocracy over everything else. Free speech should not have any limitations.

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      That’s a pretty common opinion though.

      It’s less popular than it once was, but I’d say it’s still the dominant take.

      Is there a reason you consider it unpopular?

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        It’s unpopular amongst adult content connoisseurs such as ourselves. I once posted a showerthought that if everybody had their needs met, the number of people who do porn would shink overnight. I got my head torn off and downvoted to oblivion.

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          Porn is work and it involves significant risk or damage to one’s reputation in this society. So I am sure that few people who don’t need money would do it. But ruin their lives? That’s an exaggeration.

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            Yeah, there’s a very distinct group of people in the field that ruin their lives because of pornography, and those people are the kind of people who, if they weren’t doing pornography, would have found some other way to ruin their lives.

            Like, maybe if the person who comes from an ultra-conservative, Christian, small town goes and does porn enough to become a worldwide name, and then tries to move back to their conservative hometown, then sure, that particular branch of their life may be ruined. But overall, their life is not ruined, it’s just altered.

            Like, maybe if you want to work with children, you shouldn’t do porn, a couple of teachers have lost their jobs because they had an onlyfans on the side because teaching didn’t pay enough for them to survive, but even that is relatively easy to deal with as long as you can move to a new area and start over.

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              The hope is it’s changed somewhat for the better now but studio porn is an inherently exploitative and abusive industry and the performers tend not to be the mentally healthiest people to begin with but it’s certainly exacerbated by the needs of the business and has made hundreds and potentially thousands of people’s lives objectively worse.

              Ruined? Majority? That’s subjective or untested, but porn has been a bad thing for many many people involved and that shouldn’t be whitewashed.