How it looks on a typical day
That’s from FF7, right?
Blade Runner
I love how it seems that the entirety of the US refers to it as “lockdown,” despite most retailers being open for business, Karen bringing all 6 kids with her to Walmart, Kyle assaulting anyone who even looks like they suggest that he wear a mask, and legions of “essential workers” being treated like shit on all sides. Sure, “lockdown.”
Excuse me.
You don’t live in the US I bet
Were you locked down? Unable to leave your house? Kept there by force of law?
Or do you not understand the word “lock” perhaps?
The problem with people like you is you take everything so literally and then easily get offended.
No one in the US refers to lockdown in a way that implies they were forced into their homes and literally locked in side.
It’s just a word people use to describe loosely that they were staying home.
I don’t know where you live but where I live the state was placed into a state of emergency and hardly anyone was on the roads. Normally there is traffic every where I live but at time the roads were empty. People were home instead of at school or at the office or off on vacation. Stores were either closed or open but empty.
Sure there were plenty of people that didn’t care but clearly enough did care that there was a noticeable decrease in the amount of traffic every where.
What word would you use instead of “lockdown” that doesn’t offend you so much? Maybe you just live in a deep red state.
Do you think “offended” means “correcting incorrectness”? Did your grade school teachers seem offended to you? No. And this helped me understand your style.
I get it, you’re speaking emotionally through exaggeration to make a point. And by “you don’t live in the US”, you must’ve meant that they didn’t understand your American style of over exaggeration.
But if you want to be understood, it helps to use words as they’re intended, or make it more clear that you’re being dramatic for effect.
as an aussie, who lived in melbourne, so was inside for 80% of 3 years enforced by police including curfews enforced by police helicopters… all of which the general public by a very large majority agreed with in order to save lives
what yall in the US went through was absolute hell. what was forced on you was in many ways worse than what we went through… the constant fear must have been horrible
but the US response was pathetic and needs to be remembered for exactly what it was: a complete shit show, that SPECIFICALLY DID NOT INCLUDE LOCKDOWNS… australia and countries that did lock down… a real lockdown had significantly lower death rate… your lack of lockdown led to over 1 million deaths
by using language like that, it leads to things like holocaust denial: people forget, and then people say it didn’t happen
never forget that trump and his administration, along with that of many republican governors, were directly responsible for a huge number of those millions of deaths. never let them spin the narrative
… also, yknow, saying what you went through was a lockdown completely trivialises our hellish experiences… you didn’t lock down; we put in the fucking work and saved lives… it’s a comment on the US and how toxic individual liberty at all costs can be, and something that we are very proud of how we handled: for years we traded individual freedoms to save the lives of those around us
Only my whole life. Not even sure what point you’re trying to make.
There was actually a lot of good news during that time. How quickly nature recovers when humans just collectively stop milling about for a while. Did we learn a lesson from that? I fear not. The economy needs to roll on!
We learned it is much harder to keep tabs on workers when we can’t physically see them and that is much more important than productivity.
Also that commercial real estate is more important than residential estate.
This should have been obvious since everything else about business is more important than the general public. You can commit mass murder as long as it is for profits, and if you commit fraud as a company policy then nobody goes to jail.
As far as I’ve noticed for as long as I’ve been alive, a corporation can get away with things such as:
- harm their costumers
- kill their employees
- tax evasion
- commit fraud
- bribery (lobbying)
And that is just from ths tip of my tongue, but for some reason laundering money is a big no no. I think only the alphabet bodies can get away with that.
It’s Humans, hi, we’re the problem, it’s us.
In the case of LA specifically, it’s the cars. That’s what’s changed in this picture - no cars on the road commuting to work.
People driving cars, making cars. We are overpopulated. When lemmings or any other animal gets overpopulated, they get some disease and numbers get lower. When we get that, we overcome the obstacle and the population doesn’t get significantly reduced. That is why we keep fucking up the planet. Nothing to stop us, except ourselves. And if that happens, we take all other life with us.
The Climate Deniers Playbook podcast, Episode: There’s just too many people, a nice episode debunking this myth that there are too many people
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3XsAW5AkFTGYBvM2vuoNLp
https://podcasts.apple.com/sk/podcast/the-climate-deniers-playbook/id1694759084?i=1000662501122
(I’m not saying this is my personal opinion so don’t roast me plz):
it’s not that there are too many people.
it’s that there are too many people living under a regime that compels them to wantonly consume, pollute, and generally destroy the ecosystem in favor of the sole benefit of a miniscule number of oligarchs
in other words, the planet has the carrying capacity to sustain all of us theoretically, but not practically as things are today, at least not if humans continue living according to capitalist hyper consumptive individualism.
so yeah, there are too many people - unless we effectively reprogram all of modern culture to embrace a sustainable and pro environmental ethics… which you and I know, isn’t going to happen.
QED: too many people.
note: this is different from the other commenters take because it’s not making claims about human nature as being inherently bad. it’s just claiming that the system/culture people are born into is bad and does in fact impose artificial limitations on the capacity of the planet to support diverse ecosystems
Only americans consume too much, thats 4 % of the population, you should really listen to the podcast episode
appreciate the rec, I’ve been a patreon to Climate Town for years and already listened to that episode of CDH…
my point still stands. “too much” is a spectrum, my opinion likely differs significantly from most people, including Rollie’s. i lean towards the Daniel Quinn side of environmental ethics, which definitely places more than just fat over consuming Americans in the category of unsustainable cultures.
Well then the good news for you is that lots of wealthy “western” countries are starting to decline in population and will actually need immigration to keep up numbers. There is the pretty nice Kurzgesagt video about how South Korea is basically done.
I dont know why you say we in this context. Almost none of us have any control over the decisions of “the world”. Its run by billionaires with their paid off politicians, corporate lawyers, judges…
Russia is very corrupt, China as well, USA is getting there…
The problem is not overpopulation, its that humans have no power. What if we wanted to stop spending money on warfare one day and focus all that money on building more high tech buildings, lowering prices of housing, increasing wages,…you know, positive things for humans and prioritize happiness for everyone.
Sounds like a dream right? Because you cant do that, you have no power. Thats the problem, not overpopulation. That can easily be fixed with money and visions, expanding public transport, investing in high tech trains etc etc.
Currently it feels like the only way the world would be able to work together for the good of humanity would be if there was a big asteroid coming, and everyone needed to work together for once, putting our little stupid differences aside. We could do that, but leaders are children and very low on empathy or interests in making life better for strangers.
Your comment is just apologia for failing to promote good urbanism. Overpopulation or not, there is no excuse for sprawl.
This is an incredibly cringe take and I wish you’d never type it out again.
At the time, I was just a few miles from I-5 and the noise travelled pretty far. The first month or two of lockdowns, it was super quiet with barely anyone on the highway.
Everyone at the time “we should really try and keep this…right I’m off to the corner shop in my f250”
Is it not normally like this? Need a comparison to a typical day
It’s looked like this pretty much every day since the clean air acts of the late 80s.
This picture specifically is the morning after a rainstorm. That always cleans it up a bit more.
LA is not anywhere near as bad as the movies make it out to be. It was that had, though, before emissions regulations.
There were blue skies in L.A. before the pandemic and after. Not everyday, but they existed.
I assumed LA was always deeply yellow tinted, like it is in all media set in the city.
That’s Mexico
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