• MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
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    23 hours ago

    Given that he put no effort in finding some arguments, this is a case of “negative publicity is publicity too”?

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      I would guess, yeah. But 80% of X looks like this, so I don’t know what’s engagement farming and what’s normal posting in a community of radical idiots anymore.

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        Damn, that’s worse than i thought.

        At this point, shouldn’t it be considered a acquired mental disorder?

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      The beef tallow thing is painfully stupid…

      I have started to wonder if the fact that adding it back makes it so vegetarians and vegans can no longer eat french fries (that are made with it) had anything to do with that decision… Or was that just an “unexpected bonus” in their minds?

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        I still don’t understand what that was about, like do fries made in tallow taste better? Or at least noticeably different?

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          Idk if I have the formulation right on this but I imagine it’s a combination of various things:

          • Conservative nostalgia, concretely for fries themselves and abstractly for a fake, idealised version of the past.
          • Crackpot health woo: beef tallow is “carnivore” and “caveman” diet-coded. It’s not a processed/GMO seed oil.
          • Conspiracy by US Big Dairy to beef up their numbers.

          I can’t speak for the taste. However, the fat used to fry fries does make a difference, as fat is a conveyance of flavour. Many fry recipes call for peanut oil, for example, while many people prefer using a neutral oil like canola to deep fry. I don’t think I know instinctively what the taste of beef tallow is like, but I imagine it’s just… beefy?

          Notably different oils have different smoke points, meaning you can fry at higher temperatures for different textures. That’s why duck fat potatoes are a thing, for example.

          Malcolm Gladwell famously has a podcast episode on the crusade against beef tallow, where he also replicates mcdonalds fries with beef tallow. But Gladwell is a chud, so fuck all that.

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          People remember fries used to taste better, and they’ll attribute it to anything except the maturation of their pallate.

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        It prob is a “some culture warrior/bodybuilder misread a piece of research and it turned into a culture war conspiracy” thing. Like soy. (My silly nickname predates the culture war stuff by several decades, it comes from Shadowrun).

        E: yes looked it up, comes via RFK of course and is anti seed oils thing. https://www.diningandcooking.com/1742624/america-stopped-cooking-with-tallow-for-a-reason/ and the anti seeds oil thing is an idea that has been spreading through the (far) right blogosphere for a decade or more (that is when I heard of it, so prob existed before that).

        Our friends of the pod at lw also joined in https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/DHkkL2GxhxoceLzua/thoughts-on-seed-oil (but it concludes the seed oil theory is full of shit, points for LW there, well done (dont read the comments, there is roundup in the seed oils)).

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            Yes the score is still negative even of they had one win. Note how the glyposate asspull still got 50 upvotes. (And how one person went ‘wow i have the same’ in reaction to that to then just go ‘it was gluten’. Enormous levels of contrarian so open minded their brains now have worms stuff. And amazing that all of this started just because Yud thought others were not unbiassed enough to properly understand his argument about training agi safely. Talk about 'I realized my initial goals were impossible so I made secondary goals which were also impossible so I’m going to become a weird (far) right winger scope drift. See also Musk. Whos plans for Mars were replaced with AI robots, and now is starting a company townwith all the women he has kids with (see also ‘the implication’). (Yeah I made up that his women compound and company town are in the same place, but you get my point I hope).

            Interesting how they fail in similar ways, Musk ignores the community notes and spouts his bs, vs Yud and ignoring the post (i assume 2023 yud vs 2024 lw) and already going anti meta study (??) in the tweet. Womens compound vs math pets. Weird science fiction bs vs weird science fiction ba. Has group of haters he claims are actually a small (undead) Jewish cabal who are behind all his hate vs Has group of haters who all are (goth) David Gerard.

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    If this guy is a CFA, I’d rather light my money on fire than let him manage it. I feel like the outcome would be the same anyway.

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    One of the biggest realizations I had in High School is there are two kinds of people who hate bullies: those who don’t think bullies should exist, and those who want the bully’s power for themselves.

    So it it with crypto. These jerkoffs don’t want to crush the corrupt monetary system, they want to supplant it with their own scam.

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    “Bitcoin” could just as easily be swapped with “prayer” in this sentence, with the same implications

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    mhm and how would Bitcoin fix those problems though? Can those Techbros actually answer that?

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      I think the argument he is trying to make is that with speculative investment driven to bitcoin, it will reduce hoarding over assets as an investment.

      Of course that leads to questions about why we allow assets to be hoarded and seems like a capitalism issue but you know

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        After reading The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists, I do kind of wonder if money should expire.

        Doesn’t solve the problems of private property and capital, ofc.

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        Crypto vs houses also has the problem that the former is hard to reposses. So not great to base a financial system, where people will default/be scammers/etc on. But of course they consider this a pro not a con. As they are often “im mad gov spend some money (muh taxus!!!1!!) on stuff I disagree with” types. So hoarding would be worse but now in crypto. And there is no reason why speculation in cryptoshit and real estate cant exist both at the same time, like now in reality. Gold didnt fix housing, so why would bitcoin. But yeah, think they are the common clay of the new west.

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          You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers crypto miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know. Morons

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        Yes, or backed by actual PMs or other high-value assets. Which actually makes me wonder if those aren’t fiat, too, considering artificial scarcity (De Beers and diamonds, for example).

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            The way water supplies are currently (mis)handled, you’re not wrong. Beer was developed as a sort of sanitation method, iirc.

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          Which actually makes me wonder if those aren’t fiat, too, considering artificial scarcity (De Beers and diamonds, for example).

          I can see an argument for considering them fiat. The value of “high-value assets” (e.g. gold) comes from the assumption they’ll retain their value even if things get drastic, not from being immediately useful (e.g. alcohol) or necessary to survive (e.g. water).

          PMs

          Zero clue what the acronym means in this context.

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              Ah, right. Yeah, I can see your point. If it isn’t necessary to survive (e.g. food, water), or it doesn’t have an immediate use case (e.g. ammunition), its probably some form of fiat.

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                Not really related but perhaps entertaining titbit, in the metro 2033 video game series they use high quality ammo as currency. Cant recall if this also happened in the book.

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                  Cant recall if this also happened in the book.

                  They certainly paid in bullets.

                  I stoped reading when the vibe shifted from dystopian to fantasy, but that was probably meant to be the madness induced by the darkness and not a genuine change in setting. I should probably go find the book and keep reading.