The « meat wave » myth came from nazis in ww2. It doesn’t reflect reality.

America certainly doesn’t value human life either, and I didn’t claim that. I’m not really educated on civilian casualties in different wars, I was mainly referring to all their military personnel.

Okay, if you’re not willing to do a little bit of research, here’s a paragraph from Wikipedia, which is exceedingly forgiving to the West:

Population-based studies produce estimates of the number of Iraq War casualties** ranging from 151,000 violent deaths as of June 2006** (per the Iraq Family Health Survey)** to 1,033,000 excess deaths** (per the 2007 Opinion Research Business (ORB) survey). **Other survey-based studies covering different time-spans find 461,000 total deaths (over 60% of them violent) as of June 2011 (per PLOS Medicine 2013), and 655,000 total deaths (over 90% of them violent) as of June 2006 **(per the 2006 Lancet study). Body counts counted at least 110,600 violent deaths as of April 2009 (Associated Press). The Iraq Body Count project documents 186,901 – 210,296 violent civilian deaths in their table. All estimates of Iraq War casualties are disputed.[4][5]

You should also just read about Operation Iraqi Freedom. NATO troops started that war out destroying civilian infrastructure, directly. Water purification, sewage plants, power generation, they took Iraq back to the stone age. Here we are in 2025 and Russia has shown it has the ability to hit pretty much anything in Ukraine that it wants, but curiously it’s only targeting substations rather than destroying power plants. I guess Russians are too stupid to understand how electricity is generated, it certainly can’t be that they’re making an effort to not completely delete Ukraine’s electricity.

Russia routinely sends in waves of poorly equipped soldiers just like the earlier mention of them using Wagner in “meat waves”, however this isn’t exclusive to Wagner and Nazis, its just how the Russian armed forces operate.

Can you please cite this? The usage of Wagner was notable explicitly because Russia doesn’t use human wave attacks and never have - that’s just a straight up fabrication. You can read West Point white papers about Soviet military tactics - the reality is they have always valued human life and empowered officers at the unit level to use creativity and make their own decisions. “Meat waves”, the idea of rigid top-down command structure - this is all entirely made up by the west.

A recent example I can recall is north Korean troops being used in the exact same manner, being sent In unprepared, poorly equipped, with no real heavy equipment support, where they promptly die by fpv drone.

Please provide evidence of this. Ukraine and the west have been crying about NK soldiers and their only evidence has been showing Russian nationals who look asiatic and calling them Koreans. Russia has finally announced the participation of NK troops in the recapture of one single town in Kursk - they have not been used extensively or even within Ukraine.

Training conditions for new soldiers is also extremely poor before they’re shipped out, at least it appeared that way in the past when I viewed many videos from new soldiers in Russia being trained. However that was a while ago, and who knows maybe it was all us/Ukraine propaganda videos.

Russia uses a conscript military. This is the nature of a conscript military. Russia does not ship people with poor training to the front. DPR/LPR did because they were rebels without the resources or infrastructure to do long formal training. Russia pays out big bonuses for conscripts who volunteer to be part of the SMO.

I’m not gonna pretend to know everything, or claim I’m immune to propaganda. I certainty consumed a lot of western propaganda especially earlier in the war, I appreciate hearing all your differing opinions but at least on this point it seems comical to me to suggest Russia cares about the lives of their soldiers.

It seems that way because you have been fed lies about Soviet and Russian military tactics and actions for the entirety of your life. If you’re American, you probably think that American troops liberated Germany and won the war, but if you look at actual troop deployments it was something ridiculous like 9/10 Germans being fielded to the Eastern front where it was only the Soviets who stopped them.

Chauvinism means heavy in-group bias and bigotry. Tribalism, jingoism, selfishness are related terms.

Within leftist circles, the term originates from the more formal use of “Social Chauvinists” who were the so-called socialists who sided with their own individual nations when WW1 started and cheered on the war, instead of siding with international workers and opposing the war across the board. It’s basically the worst insult that could be levied by a leftist outside of fascist, it’s stating that one has completely abandoned internationalist principles and solidarity for selfish warmongering short-term gains.

So a “western chauvinist” is a westerner who holds heavy pro-west biases and anti-global south biases. They don’t even have to be conscious or purposeful. Simple holding the generic American worldview is sufficient to be a chauvinist. Just passively absorbing the dominant racist, imperialist, colonialist ideology of the West will make one a chauvinist if one doesn’t introspect and cleanse oneself of it.

It’s been show through history that the leftist groups that tend towards chauvinism are almost always the most “Liberal” and reformist of the lot. The “Social Democrats” like Bernie Sanders always side with international capital and zionism because they are traitors. It’s generally the more radical communists who maintain their principles of internationalism. This is a major source of conflict between the reformist and revolutionary lefts, whether to maintain ones empire or not.

In poor and oppressed and colonized nations this divide is not as prominent. Everyone who supports decolonization or is on the left is easily united under a single banner of liberation. In imperialist western rich countries though, the left splits apart into the true comrades and the sell outs who really believe in their own superiority.

You see this chauvinism among the left manifesting in a lot of ways. The most common is that we (as in white rich nations) are the only people who can do revolution peacefully and correctly - that the “others” did socialism wrong and we know better than them. Another common strain is the nihilistic trend of “well everyone is evil and imperialist so who even cares”. This lazy both-sidesism projects what the western left knows is bad about their own society onto other societies they know nothing about, to create false equivalence and make it ok to just sit around doing nothing. Another kind of chauvinism is just unironically believing American propaganda about the “authoritarians” of the East.

You were doing a mix of 2 and 3

You’re assuming Russia doesn’t value human life because you’ve been fed that idea your entire life, and the reason you’re certain is that you know America doesn’t so Russia must not either. That is chauvinism.