I personally do bring up Russian Nazis whenever I see that the tone of the conversation crosses into buying Russian propaganda too much, even if ironically, which can be an issue on hexbear.
Ukraine being backed by the most powerful fascist government in the world – the US – is indeed part of the reason why people tend to emphasise Ukrainian Nazis. Another part is that Ukrainian nationalism is often uncrititically accepted and propagated by Western media. An example you’ve probably seen is the widespread use of the “Slava Ukraini” slogan, which has a history of being used by Ukrainian Nazi collaborators.
Just to add to what others said another reason we don’t really bother focusing on Russia is that the entire western media sphere is intensely focused on demonizing Russia already, we are here to provide people larger context and alternate perspectives based on our historical and materialist analysis rooted as best we can in the way things are and not an ideal of what ought to be.
Totally valid point, a perspective from an outsider though is that exclusively focusing on one while ignoring the other pushes outsiders away from hearing and learning your perspectives. However if you don’t really care about interacting with outsiders it doesn’t matter really I suppose.
I like interacting on hexbear because I think having your opinions and views challenged is healthy, and doing this has actually pulled me out of a lot of western propaganda and I’ve taken to sharing some views with users here, however a lot of other people just block this instance and are locked away forever In their little echo chambers.
This instance is for leftists, not for leftists to cater to liberals. We do not care if you find us talking amongst ourselves distasteful. You have the entire rest of the Western media and social media to cater to you.
Comrade john_brown comment in the adjacent thread has some good examples – generally the denial of how much Russian nationalism permeates every level of the Russian society, including the highest echelons of the government, all while wearing the corpse of the Soviet Union for pretense.
I personally do bring up Russian Nazis whenever I see that the tone of the conversation crosses into buying Russian propaganda too much, even if ironically, which can be an issue on hexbear.
Ukraine being backed by the most powerful fascist government in the world – the US – is indeed part of the reason why people tend to emphasise Ukrainian Nazis. Another part is that Ukrainian nationalism is often uncrititically accepted and propagated by Western media. An example you’ve probably seen is the widespread use of the “Slava Ukraini” slogan, which has a history of being used by Ukrainian Nazi collaborators.
Thank you! I appreciate the response and better understanding it has given me
Just to add to what others said another reason we don’t really bother focusing on Russia is that the entire western media sphere is intensely focused on demonizing Russia already, we are here to provide people larger context and alternate perspectives based on our historical and materialist analysis rooted as best we can in the way things are and not an ideal of what ought to be.
Totally valid point, a perspective from an outsider though is that exclusively focusing on one while ignoring the other pushes outsiders away from hearing and learning your perspectives. However if you don’t really care about interacting with outsiders it doesn’t matter really I suppose.
I like interacting on hexbear because I think having your opinions and views challenged is healthy, and doing this has actually pulled me out of a lot of western propaganda and I’ve taken to sharing some views with users here, however a lot of other people just block this instance and are locked away forever In their little echo chambers.
This instance is for leftists, not for leftists to cater to liberals. We do not care if you find us talking amongst ourselves distasteful. You have the entire rest of the Western media and social media to cater to you.
What is the Russian propaganda line that we need to be wary of, to be clear?
Comrade john_brown comment in the adjacent thread has some good examples – generally the denial of how much Russian nationalism permeates every level of the Russian society, including the highest echelons of the government, all while wearing the corpse of the Soviet Union for pretense.
Nationalism isn’t fascism