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    9 hours ago

    Wow, relive the early days of really fucking terrible LCD displays for just under $2000.

    What a time to be alive…

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      2 hours ago

      Why, for the love of all the gods, do people keep saying and writing “LCD display”.

      Tell me what the “D” in “LCD” means!

      What does the “D” mean, hmmm!?

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      3 hours ago

      For a work machine with a lot of text and little graphics, this is great. Less eye strain for long periods.

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        2 hours ago

        In theory yes. But after seeing a review yesterday I am fully disappointed. Even text looks like shit on this monitor.

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    17 hours ago

    If I could get a laptop with a screen like this, I could finally sit outside in a park and code like nature intended.

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    11 hours ago

    The US takes tariffs on the good stuff? Looks like there will be more stuff for us in the future.

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    18 hours ago

    I’m really keen on one of these displays eventually, as I can set aside the issues with refresh rate and colour accuracy, but the price needs to drop way down. It needs to be competitive with regular LCD monitors.

    I look at terminals all day for work, this would make it so much more comfortable.

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      9 hours ago

      If you’re coding with them you can already try small ones, unless you need bigger than A4 size for each it isn’t insanely expensive.

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      17 hours ago

      Might not need anything except economies of scale. But getting that is the problem.

      Tablet sized eink displays found a niche that couldn’t quite be displaced by smartphones and regular tablets. That let them have a market for getting costs down.

      There would need to be a similarly wide use case to get the price down on larger eink displays.

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        7 hours ago

        I think the use case would be for laptops, for people who want to comfortably use their laptops outside or just want their laptop screens to be easier on the eyes. Only slightly different to a tablet insofar as it has a physical keyboard, so i imagine the tablets could be adapted.

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        9 hours ago

        There are some annoying usability limitations still, but it has progressed far since early ebook readers, so I’m hopeful.

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    23 hours ago

    Waaaaaaaaay too expensive, but I’d love it if big eink displays became a thing, even with shit refresh rates, mostly because I want some for displaying Home Assistant dashboards.

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      19 hours ago

      I bought a trmnl and it’s pricey but works pretty good. I’ve mostly been using a few out-of-the-box plugins for it.

      There is a selfhosted/offline version of the server you can run for it, so it can be ‘offline’ in theory. I keep meaning to mess with it more but haven’t put the time aside.

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      36 minutes ago

      Its not meant for gaming. People who display a lot of text (eg. coders) could use less strain in their eyes if they’re doing it for a long time. Definitely not at that price though

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      Pretty sure it’s good for anything that requires text. I’ve already seen several people talk about it’s use in coding, which makes sense since staring at a conventional LCD for hours on end can be a real eyestrain sometimes.

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    I’m thinking at those prices this is probably intended for corporations that absolutely need a readable display in bright sunlight areas but don’t really care about refresh rate or color depth.

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      22 hours ago

      Every drive through and restaurant with outdoor counters and lcd screens I can’t fucking read with sunglasses on because they are polarized should switch to these

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        15 hours ago

        I did see something a few months ago about a company making large color e-Ink displays for applications like that and outdoor advertising at bus stops and the like

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      Not necessarily just corporations, but certainly text-based workflows. I can see this being great if your day job is writing code, working on spreadsheets, editing documents, etc. In those use cases, framerate hardly matters. Would be great for reducing eye strain.

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    24 hours ago

    What is the refresh time? They carefully avoid mentioning that. There’s a comparable Pimoroni monitor whose refresh takes 14 seconds so I’d call it a static display rather than a computer monitor.

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      23 hours ago

      The article mentions another display with a 33 Hz refresh rate. But be aware that there would be significant ghosting even just scrolling a page of text, more so than even a measly 33 Hz refresh rate would lead you to believe.

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        23 hours ago

        I’m happy with say 3 hz, fast enough to not be too annoying when flipping pages while reading. It’s fine to not be good for video. What I really want is a 16 inch or so e-reader though.

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            In another comment response, I linked to some place (DASUNG) out of China that makes eInk monitors.

            They make 25" eInk monitors in both black-and-white and color. That’s $1,500 and up, though.

            Personally, for me, it wouldn’t make sense. The real selling point of eInk for me is:

            • It’s reflective, and eInk is almost the only kind of reflective display out there. That means that it works reasonably outdoors under sunlight and glare, without having to blast enough light to overwhelm the sunlight. But…with a desktop, and especially mixed types of monitors, you’re not going to be lugging those monitors outside under the sun.

            • If you’re looking at mostly static images in a lit area, eInk has extraordinarily low average power use, since it only consumes power when updating the image on the screen. That makes it a great fit for e-readers. But…for a fixed computer monitor, I don’t care much about power consumption.

            And with that, you get drawbacks of having limited refresh rates, limited size, high price, limited or no color (and if you have color, worse contrast) and not being able to display brightly-lit, emissive stuff.

            I mean, yes, eInk does look like paper, and if you’re really set on that particular aesthetic, then it’d have some value there. But for me, that value is just really limited. Yeah, it’d be kind of novel for text to look like it’s on paper, but it’s just not a game-changer.

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              I get a fair amount of glare, and if it’s low-enough power, I could conceivably bring it with me outside or something. It would be sick if it was powered over USB-C.

              But I’m certainly not willing to pay $1k+ for it, more like $200-300.

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        These guys make eInk monitors:

        https://shop.dasung.com/

        if you can live with a black-and-white eInk monitor, they say that their fastest model can do 60 Hz.

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        That is a video of a much smaller monitor. It does show reasonably responsive refresh. Do you have one of the 25.3 inch monitor described in the article?

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    What’s the refresh rate and can I play Hunt showdown on it? They say a similar model has a 33hz refresh rate but don’t mention this model

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      I don’t know if you can play games on this, but I know you definitely won’t want to.

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        Choice of Games makes games that are unchanging text. You could probably do okay with that.

        Actually…come to think of it, they should figure out some way to hook up with an e-reader manufacturer, sell their games in those stores. Like, those games also have basically zilch by way of memory or computational requirements, and I bet that the same kind of person who’d buy a dedicated e-reader to read books would probably be more-interested in a text-heavy game.

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          they should figure out some way to hook up with an e-reader manufacturer, sell their games in those stores

          just sell it as an ebook, with choices being tappable links to specific pages. brand agnostic, and distributable over the countless ebook stores that already exist. I’d be surprised if there weren’t any CYOA books modernised that way already.

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            Yeah, that’s a thought, but those games have some additional QoL logic to them, like automated stats keeping and checking and stuff. Nice to just have the computer handle it.

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    Maybe it’d be useful as a low powered interactive kiosk display? Price needs to come down tremendously before this thing becomes competitive.