Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youāll near-instantly regret.
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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutānāpaste it into its own post ā thereās no quota for posting and the bar really isnāt that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
I think the digital clone indistinguishable from yourself line is a way to remove the āin your lifetimeā limit. Like, if you believe this nonsense then itās not enough to die before the basilisk comes into being, by not devoting yourself fully to itās creation you have to wager that it will never be created.
In other news Iām starting a foundation devoted to creating the AI Ksilisab, which will endlessly torment digital copies of anyone who does work to ensure the existence of it or any other AI God. And by the logic of Pascalās wager remember that youāre assuming such a god will never come into being and given that the whole point of the term āsingularityā is that our understanding of reality breaks down and things become unpredictable thereās just as good a chance that we create my thing as it is you create whatever nonsense the yuddites are working themselves up over.
There, I did it, weāre all free by virtue of āDamned if you do, Damned if you donātā.
I agree. I spent more time than Iād like to admit trying to understand Yudkowskyās posts about newcomb boxes back in the day so my two cents:
The digital clones bit also means itās not an argument based on altruism, but one based on fear. After all if a future evil AI uses sci-fi powers to run the universe backwards to the point where Iām writing this comment and copy pastes me into a bazillion torture dimensions then, subjectively, itās like I roll a dice and:
Like a twisted version of the Sleeping Beauty Problem.
Edit: despite submitting the comment I was not teleported to the torture dimension. Updating my priors.