• CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
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    Someone else posted this in a different thread but its even more relevant here.
    Light takes 8 minutes to reach the earth from the sun, if the sun vanished it would still be daylight for 8 minutes.
    It takes 30 days for a ship to reach the US from China.
    We’re around day 26 now afaik?

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      I work in the fashion retail industry. We had cancelled half of fall holiday orders and increase MSRP on a bunch of other stuff. This is only the tip of the iceberg for issues that will compound.

      This is about to make COVID shortages seem aspirational.

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      Yup, there-abouts. Someone said the last ships from China will reach the east coast on the 8th (that one takes longer). So, starting on the 8th, there will be NO import from China in the US.

      Prep for some spicy times.

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        It’s not that China’s blocking shipping, it’s that retailers aren’t confident that they can move a product at whatever the previous cost of the product x 2.25 + other costs and profits was, right?

        A lot of telescope parts are made in China, IIRC, so let’s use them as an example. Celestron is based out of California, let’s say they sell a scope for $1400 and it used to cost them $800 to get from China. That means that to make the same amount on each unit after the cost, they’d need to charge $800+(800*1.25)[the tariff]+(1400-800)[their margin on the product] for a total of $2400. Mind you, I have no idea how thick their margins really are, so I’m not going to comment on that. Now, my understanding of markets is that they sell at whatever they think the market can bear, so if they thought they could sell the scope at $2400, they already would have been. So, it makes sense to just not buy any telescopes just now, since if dingus wakes up tomorrow, declares victory in the trade war and declares tariffs woke, you’ll be stuck with a bunch of product that will be basically impossible to move without taking a loss. This also gives you time to scrape up the capital to buy at the increased price if the tariffs don’t drop. Eventually, though, you’re either going to have to buy product at the higher price or close up shop.

        So much to say that I’m a little surprised that there aren’t at least some shipments coming of lower-cost higher-volume goods that might be better able to absorb the shock of the tariffs. The fact that there’s just nothing coming our way is incredible to imagine. Is it because of the recent gouge-flation; companies have recently increased prices to the resistance point and they now know that there’s zero wiggle room for passing those costs on to customers without suffering a loss in sales volume?

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          Most people also forget about another element in this puzzle.

          Usually what happens is, you buy goods in bulk, and plan for that in advance. Say, you’ve planned a shipment of 1 million dollars worth of telescopes, $800 each. But now with the tariffs hit you can afford fewer telescopes per 1 million dollars. Which mans that - because you’re now ordering them at $1k - you can afford 250 fewer telescopes which rises the price per telescope due to a smaller order. So now you’re not paying 1.25 on the dollar from 800, but rather from 1k! Which makes you afford fewer, which rises the price, etc., etc., etc.

          GamersNexus has a great documentary on this shit show of a situation, I do recommend giving it a watch. :) It’s oh so optimistically titled The Death of Affordable Computing.

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    Ah well at least they stuck it to the woke agenda amirite? I just want to repeat that I feel awful for the actual decent people in the USA that have more than two brain cells. And I wish that I could give you an island or something where you don’t have to share a country with piece of shit scum human beings.

    But that aside, I’m going to start looking at this as good news, personally. I am going to feel glee at seeing Americans having to lie in the bed that they made. I’m looking forward to some real pain and suffering here.

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      I am going to feel glee at seeing Americans having to lie in the bed that they made. I’m looking forward to some real pain and suffering here.

      American here. Feeling the same. The only way the dumbest among us can learn is through personal suffering. So that’s the way it’s going to be.

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        The only way the dumbest among us can learn is through personal suffering. So that’s the way it’s going to be.

        I’m a bit worried that, instead of learning on their mistakes, they’ll just find another scapegoat. Like, “if we had Canada and Panama none of this would’ve happened”, or some other inane shit like that.

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      Maybe they’re going to go hungry for a month or three, but at least they owned the libs!

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      Yes, but never mind that.

      This is going to cause Soviet-style, empty shelves, lining up for bread, actual goddamned shortages.

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        Imagine going through another COVID-like experience as far as the economy is concerned, except this time it was entirely caused by the conservative virus.

        Because it’s starting to look like that’s what is going to happen.

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            I was down there just as Covid was ramping up and borders were closing. A guy had a couple of grocery carts full of meat. Took almost the whole display. He was arguing at the cash register because they wouldn’t let him buy it all

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          I could be wrong, but my very limited experience with bread makers is that they’re basically for making loaves more conveniently, since they can mix, knead and bake all in one device. If you’ve got to remove the dough and form it into buns to bake on a sheet pan anyway, I’m not sure a bread machine has any advantage over a normal stand mixer.

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            I’m not sure a bread machine has any advantage over a normal stand mixer.

            It takes care of the mixing, and rising. It’s very “set it and forget it”.

            Forming buns or a pizza crust out of that dough and tossing that in the oven is a pretty fast part of the process.

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              You don’t even need a machine or mixer. There is the “artisan bread in 5 minutes a day” book and website. You add flour water yeast and salt, stir it in with a knife or spatula then stir or fold it in with your hands till it is somewhat consistent. They even say don’t over mix, the dough will figure it out. Wait two hours. Either boule it up or cut into bun blobs , rise again 40 mins and then bake it. Easiest recipe ever and it tastes amazing.

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    I’m NOT Racist and I LOVE Jesus but this is a SMALL Price to Pay to be able to BULLY MINORITY CHILDREN!

    -Literally EVERYONE who Voted for Trump since he LITERALLY Campaigned on doing EXACTLY this!

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      Generalizing all trump voters as irredeemably bad is a barrier to antifascist organizing.

      Some of trump’s most affected victims voted for him and it’s naive to think we don’t need them to defeat fascism.

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        I think the anti-fascist organizing will have to find a way to succeed without changing their principles to make the fascists feel welcome.

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        Its a bit late for the people who’s leopards are eating their face to get upset that they voted for the leopards.

        Especially when everyone else told them specifically “that leopard will eat your face.”

        If you voted for trump, quit crying and start protesting. Its basically the last hope we have of a peaceful resolution to this problem.

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          It feels natural to be angry at people who fell for fascist lies, but the fascists tell these lies because a certain percentage of people will always believe them.

          It’s more effective to acknowledge that sad reality, rather than blaming the people who make up that percentage.

          It takes a lot to turn your back on a former identity, even when it’s hurting you. Calling people stupid all the time makes that harder and gains us nothing.

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            No one here called anyone “stupid.” What they did was say a bunch of things many Trump voters actually believe…

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            I don’t think “stupid” is a helpful term, ever.

            However, with the things that are going on plausible deniability is getting harder and harder.

            At this point, you can’t say you aren’t aware of what this administration is doing.

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              A lot of people don’t read or watch the news, or maybe they just watch Fox News sometimes. Or maybe they get their news from social media and where there’s algorithms that are designed to give us each the news we want to see.

              Everyone gets scammed sometimes. If you’re spending a lot of time on the internet and watching some influencers, you’re probably being scammed by some of them in some way. Maybe it’s just making you think some bullshit entertainment story is more important than it really is so you’ll continue watching. Or maybe you’re being scammed into supporting some horrible people, you’re just not aware of how horrible they are.

              What matters is if someone can admit they were wrong and work to make things right.

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        If they could look past him being a felon, raping kids, assaulting women, mocking a disabled person, etc…they will be no help defeating fascism

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        The ones that support him right now are too far gone at this point. The people you see complaining in town halls are the people that need to be swayed, but they have already decided that he is not what they want.

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        Those people will be the ones destroying libraries and universities, and setting up concentration camps before they’ll protect the actual constitution. They aren’t going to help.

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        Fun story here, I co-organized parties and we sold slaps for 2 bucks each. Guest what? It worked very well.

        Trump voters are the same as the ones paying to be slapped minus the party.

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      Add in Bob Ferguson as well, Seattle voters really aren’t getting what they’re voting for 😭