• Hegar@fedia.io
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    Generalizing all trump voters as irredeemably bad is a barrier to antifascist organizing.

    Some of trump’s most affected victims voted for him and it’s naive to think we don’t need them to defeat fascism.

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      Its a bit late for the people who’s leopards are eating their face to get upset that they voted for the leopards.

      Especially when everyone else told them specifically “that leopard will eat your face.”

      If you voted for trump, quit crying and start protesting. Its basically the last hope we have of a peaceful resolution to this problem.

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        It feels natural to be angry at people who fell for fascist lies, but the fascists tell these lies because a certain percentage of people will always believe them.

        It’s more effective to acknowledge that sad reality, rather than blaming the people who make up that percentage.

        It takes a lot to turn your back on a former identity, even when it’s hurting you. Calling people stupid all the time makes that harder and gains us nothing.

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          No one here called anyone “stupid.” What they did was say a bunch of things many Trump voters actually believe…

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          I don’t think “stupid” is a helpful term, ever.

          However, with the things that are going on plausible deniability is getting harder and harder.

          At this point, you can’t say you aren’t aware of what this administration is doing.

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            A lot of people don’t read or watch the news, or maybe they just watch Fox News sometimes. Or maybe they get their news from social media and where there’s algorithms that are designed to give us each the news we want to see.

            Everyone gets scammed sometimes. If you’re spending a lot of time on the internet and watching some influencers, you’re probably being scammed by some of them in some way. Maybe it’s just making you think some bullshit entertainment story is more important than it really is so you’ll continue watching. Or maybe you’re being scammed into supporting some horrible people, you’re just not aware of how horrible they are.

            What matters is if someone can admit they were wrong and work to make things right.

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      I think the anti-fascist organizing will have to find a way to succeed without changing their principles to make the fascists feel welcome.

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      If they could look past him being a felon, raping kids, assaulting women, mocking a disabled person, etc…they will be no help defeating fascism

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      The ones that support him right now are too far gone at this point. The people you see complaining in town halls are the people that need to be swayed, but they have already decided that he is not what they want.

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      Those people will be the ones destroying libraries and universities, and setting up concentration camps before they’ll protect the actual constitution. They aren’t going to help.

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      Fun story here, I co-organized parties and we sold slaps for 2 bucks each. Guest what? It worked very well.

      Trump voters are the same as the ones paying to be slapped minus the party.