Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting thisā€¦)

  • Architeuthis@awful.systems
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    Ā·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    Hereā€™s a screenshot of a skeet of a screenshot of a tweet featuring an unusually shit take on WW2 by Moldbug:

    link

    transcript

    skeet by Joe Stieb: Another tweet that should have ended with the first sentence.

    Also, I guess Iā€™m a ā€œWorld War Two enjoyerā€

    tweet by Curtis Yarvin: There is very very extensive evidence of the Holocaust.

    Unfortunately for WW2 enjoyers, the US and England did not go to war to stop the Holocaust. They went to war to stop the Axis plan for world conquest.

    There is no evidence of the Axis plan for world conquest.

    edit: hadnā€™t seen yarvinā€™s twitter feed before, thatā€™s one high octane shit show.

    • Sailor Sega Saturn@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      Ā·
      edit-2
      3 days ago

      Oh gosh I looked up the post and that was a mistake. Actually Mr. Yarvin there is quote tweeting someone who dared, on twitter, to say that the Holocaust was real. The replies (including Yarvinā€™s incorrect & off topic nonsense) being about what youā€™d expect from twitter nowadays. So much Holocaust denial.

      • Architeuthis@awful.systems
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        Ā·
        2 days ago

        I mean, itā€™s not like the holocaust acceptance in that thread is much better.

        https://xcancel.com/x_apotheosis/status/1910766575923101837

        transcript

        The fight is for the inheritance of Rome. The main players are the Anglos, Deutsch, and Russians. The Deutsch are the true heir and have the highest culture. The Anglos and Russians are usurpers.

        The Holocaust cannot be taken out of context but must be understood as part of the conditions of total war and the spirit of the age. To this end we need to rethink the nature of morality and consider the true inevitability of tragedy.

        The secular Jewish elites have aligned with the Anglos. The Orthodox Jewish elites have aligned with Moscow. The Deutsch have been left to the abyss.

        • gerikson@awful.systems
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          Ā·
          2 days ago

          so following this ā€œlogicā€, the problem for the ā€œDeutschā€ is that there is no flavor of Jews willing to ā€œalignā€ with them?

          Whose fault is that, motherfuckers?

          • Architeuthis@awful.systems
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            Ā·
            2 days ago

            Iā€™ll just make a wild assumption that the author of that post is also a raging antisemite who thinks the jews control the world, so being jew-unaligned is probably a point of virtue in his book.

            Also I bet the non-secular jews were in actuality not that crazy about Russia either and he just means judeobolshevism.

    • gerikson@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      Ā·
      3 days ago

      ironically many ā€œWW2 enjoyersā€ are big fans of German hardware, uniforms and tacticsā€¦

      • Architeuthis@awful.systems
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        Ā·
        edit-2
        3 days ago

        The vibe I get is that by ā€˜enjoyersā€™ he means people who thought fighting the nazis in WW2 was morally justified.

    • bitofhope@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      Ā·
      3 days ago

      Unusually shit take on WW2 but not an unusually shit take from Moldbug. Just the usual level of shit.

    • swlabr@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      Ā·
      3 days ago

      I think itā€™s accurate that the US and England didnā€™t join to stop the Holocaust. Sentence 3 is a little oversimplified, and sentence 4 is straight-up lunacy.

      • Architeuthis@awful.systems
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        Ā·
        edit-2
        3 days ago

        Old and busted: whitewashing hitlerism by pretending the holocaust didnā€™t happen.

        New hotness: pretending the holocaust just sort of happened one day, completely unrelated to the explicit ideology of the people who planned and executed it and the regime that sanctioned it, and anyway they had their hands full defending themselves against unprovoked attacks by the so-called allies, who can blame them.

      • swlabr@awful.systems
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        Ā·
        3 days ago

        I checked the link, the thread elaborates a bit more:

        to which my understanding is: this is absolutely true as well.

        • gerikson@awful.systems
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          Ā·
          3 days ago

          I found it too, it makes the point that Nazi Germany did nothing wrong in attcking other countries, stealing their products, and enslaving their people" is an argument Putin could have made.

          • bitofhope@awful.systems
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            12
            Ā·
            3 days ago

            Oh, but you see the axis powers only ever wanted to conquer most of Europe, North Africa, a bunch of islands in the Pacific, most of Southeast Asia, Korea and large parts of mainland China, which the allies would have been completely fine with. Nothing suggests they would actually go for full conquest victory. What is a ā€œLebensraumā€? Is it a type of cheese?

            • YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              8
              Ā·
              3 days ago

              Now hang on how many of those conquests were for actual land grab reasons and how many were because they expected people to take issue with starting massive offensive wars for land grab reasons, especially what with the declared intent to ethnically cleanse at least all of Eastern Europe. Thatā€™s definitely distinct from planning world conquest, right?