• Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Yeah my faith in our justice system has gotten to the point that I can only see one of two potential outcomes realistically happening with Trump’s crimes:

    • No justice. We’ll dance to this song till the day he succumbs to his decades-long hamburder induced suicide.

    • Vigilante justice. Collectively we don’t appear to have the spine for this kind of intervention, but even if we’re talking about the one-in-a-million lone wolf type of incident, we have over 300 one-in-a-millions in the US population to choose from, so I’m honestly kinda surprised we don’t see this kind of shit more often. (to be clear, this is an assessment, not a recommendation)

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      What do you mean by “gotten”? US has forever favored the rich white people.

      like geez, take a look into your history? Segregation was fine till 60-70s. Killing people in mass abroad is okay and war crimes praised and criminals elected presidents. Funding genocide? bipartisan thumbs up.

      Fuck your “justice system”

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        Most of us don’t see that shit growing up. We’re indoctrinated through our entire childhood, then slow-crash as we see example after example of a “broken” system… then finally accept that it’s not broken, it’s working as intended: it’s evil.

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        7 months ago

        …my mixed race kid was a suicide risk…

        Ummm what? Can you elaborate on this further I don’t think I’ve heard this one before.

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            That’s a horrible story. I had an aquaintance tell me when I was early 20s that when I had kids they wouldn’t be as valuable as our friends kids. Why? Because our friends kids are white.

            And, at least in the US, that piece of shit wasn’t wrong, but I didn’t need to hear that.

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              Did he say valuable, or valued?

              Also why do you not need to hear that? Are you planning to ignore the challenges your kids will face? Like … what the fuck is with these parents cutting people out of their lives when they deliver bad news about their kids’ environment?

              If someone came to me and said “Hey there’s a coyote outside tonight so don’t let your kids out”, and I said “Well maybe that’s true but I don’t need to hear that shit” then cut them out of my life, I’d see myself as having failed as a parent right there.

              Your job is to keep your eyes open, not take steps to purge unpleasant information from your life. I’d be disgusted if you didn’t have kids, but since you adopted the responsibility of having kids and are taking this comfort-over-awareness policy, it’s appalling.

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                There is a gigantic difference between “there’s a dangerous animal outside that you can do something about.” And “your kid isn’t white (absolutely nothing you can do about that) so their life might suck more.”

                One of those you can actually do something about, the other is just “sucks to not be white.” It’s pretty much useless negativity.

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                I didn’t need to hear it because I lived it and already knew the reality for non white kids growing up here. I didn’t need a middle aged white man telling me how it is. And I’d rather cut someone like that out of my life for myself, my kids weren’t born then, and they aren’t going to hear that story.

                Your coyote analogy is flawed. This wasn’t an immediate threat that I ignored.

                I know what my job is as a parent, probably better than you do.

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            Someone correctly indicating that mixed race children have lower standards of living in racist countries such as the United States is not someone who should be shunned

            The less “white” someone is, the more likely it is for them to experience negative social, economic, and medical outcomes; this is because the United States is a racist country that intentionally disregards people of color.

            I’m not sure why it’s improper for a friend to acknowledge that unfortunate truth. It’s reality, and clearly you agree with its conclusions on some level if you left the country yourself

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              You seemed to have missed

              bad for the “white” race

              which implies that the mixed race kid is dragging down whites

              If you are an idiot or a cunt now is the time to assure us it isn’t both.

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                If you are an idiot or a cunt now is the time to assure us it isn’t both.

                Is this allowed under the rules of moderation?

                Regardless, obviously talking about a white race is a concerning thing to do. But the rest of the conversation did not appear racist at all.

                In racist countries such as the United States, a mixed race child will have worse outcomes than a “White” child. Which seems to be what this former friend was saying. Idk why that’s so wrong - it’s literally a progressive talking point since 2014, and, really, since the 1960s and the Civil Rights Movement

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                  Alright it is both.

                  The comments were not in the interest of helping the child. The comments were in the interest of criticising the parent, for having a family with a person they love.

                  You are arguing that a person’s lived experiences are akchually different from what his perception was. There was no constructive or uplifting discussion following the factoid being shared. If the “friend” was telling him that some principal went to a cross burning, or some boyscout group leader has SS tattoos, that would have been useful and actionable for the parents. But he didn’t. The advice was, you shouldn’t have done that. Some cunt advice from a supposed “friend”.

                  If you still don’t see the problem, you are a dumb cunt, and sympathizer for racists. Go choke on something rusty you dumb cunt.

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                You’re being a crybully about telling a story that doesn’t make sense

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          Rates of suicide are higher in mixed race kids.

          What kind of elaboration are you looking for?

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            So let’s go over this interaction you’re having here:

            • This person described a traumatic life event wherein they are given unbidden “advice” that pretty obviously comes from a place of outright racism, no matter how you wanna dog-whistle it.

            • You started giving them the exact same unbidden advice.

            Do you not feel comically villainous? This is clearly not the time nor the place for this shit, anyone with basic empathy would know that. You’re going way the fuck out of your way just to be an asshole, it’s such a sad way to spend your time.

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              Someone correctly indicating that mixed race children have lower standards of living in racist countries such as the United States is not someone who should be shunned

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                If that were the whole of the situation you might have a point, but you miss out on most nuance and context when you boil it down to “someone who does X is good”

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                  A racist saying that a mixed race child will experience more hardship than a “White” child is just as correct as a NAACP spokesperson saying the same thing. This country is structurally racist, which has real consequences for everyone according to their skin color and ability to pass as “White.”

                  Given that, idk what the friend did wrong - aside from apparently talking about “The White Race,” which is always a weird thing to do, of course

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                    I really appreciate you bringing the context back into the discussion, hot damn! Honestly, that’s a much more measured and reasonable response than my snarky comment should deserve lmao

                    I’m not trying to argue that the friend in OP’s story is a racist because of that comment. I do, however, think that OP probably had other reasons to cast this particular interaction as having racist intentions. I’m obviously assuming things about the situation beyond the information provided, but so is the other so-and-so that I’m being an asshole to. Only that individual is also like, harassing the teller of the story over it?

                    Either way I’m way too invested in this thread, hope you’re having a good day!

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        So if I’m understanding this right:

        • He was the perfect intersectional candidate to assassinate your political enemies
        • But then he discovered 4chan, and switched to giving you extremely valuable warnings about pitfalls your child’s life will contain
        • Which upset your creamy sweet comfort bubble
        • So you labeled him a racist and purged him from your life

        He deserves better friends than you.

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          You’re not “understanding this right”, but you seem to be enjoying yourself so who am I to judge.

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          discovered 4chan, and switched to giving you extremely valuable warnings about pitfalls your child’s life will contain

          That’s certainly one take, not one that I would’ve reached but it’s definitely a take.

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      I’ve been saying from the start that the prosecution is dragging their feet, hoping he either dies or becomes president, so they don’t have to be the ones who established precedent of their social class facing justice.

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        Almost! You can imagine how frustrated my FBI agent must have been when he got to that disclaimer at the end of the post!

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      Yeah, there was that one unhinged moron who actually found Nancy pelosi’s husband and attacked him with a hammer. As unhinged as that dude was, I liked that. It made me wonder why if this moron can do that, why aren’t the elites constantly getting attacked in the streets.