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Flying Squid@lemmy.world to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 2 years ago

Not exactly helping the proles.

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Not exactly helping the proles.

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    Isn’t the “liberation of workers and the achievement of communism” prophetic enough for you?

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      I would say so, if it weren’t for the rigorous scientific theory behind it. But, again, Marx is far from my saviour. For one, many have come after that improved upon his theories since his works. So, you continue to miss the mark.

      You haven’t answered any of my questions.

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        The only scientific part of Marx’s “theory” is the part where he says it is, nothing more than that.

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          https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/Engels_Socialism_Utopian_and_Scientific.pdf

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_materialism

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_materialism

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            That’s nothing but gross oversimplifications of events that have little to nothing to do with science

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              Read first, then judge.

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                Trust me, saying all of history is composed of two groups of people is a gross oversimplification based on a philosophical (not scientific) root, that clearly is made to enforce that “us Vs them” mentality

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                  And that is a gross oversimplification of historical and dialectical materialism.

                  https://youtu.be/ZXwWWiI3E1A?si=xp4hWf-jtJpxTN5W

                  https://youtu.be/nZXaZHe901w?si=vG3rwmkmoG0pG5wl

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                    Pretty sure the core is just “Us Vs them AKA the oppressed Vs the oppressors”

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