Imagine getting paid to design a park for a good 30 kids. So at least 30 adult people might wanna enjoy watching their kids run around busting the dance moves and the jumping and jumping and smashing at the park. Maybe 10 of them want to sit down. So if I was a total fucking asshole I would want at least 10 seats. Usually people don’t want to mingle with other possible covid sources so 10 benches. Okay now you have a park, and 10 benches. The sun indicates good weather which is the usual time when one would like to go to the park. Unless Seattle ofcourse. OK so you need to make a shade for the sun and a roof for rain.
Now comes the tricky bit. I know a lot of park designers are total fucking retard assholes, but let’s assume you want people to have fun and enjoy at least the one fucking bench. Say you would like this enjoyment to happen between 8 am and 8 pm during all or most sunny months. Ah nevermind, its too complicated.
Looks like it provides shade at noon, when the sun is directly overhead. Makes sense to me
It provides shade for most of both benches exactly at noon in summer time. Any other time you’re SOL.
Have you never been to a park my guy? This is decent urban design. Maybe you just had a bad day and you’re looking for something to be mad about
Your guy is kind of over the top and his humor is a bit off, but he’s not wrong. A couple strategically planted trees OR a couple more carefully planned covers would provide shade to the benches most of the day.
A park I frequent has three large triangle shades suspended overhead that cover most benches and some of the play area most of the day. That’s good urban design.
This is economic design. One shade that barely covers two benches at noon.
I specifically said this is decent urban design, not good. I agree with you.
Its overcast now so it is not bothering me. I just thought to post this in case some was thinking about designing a new park somewhere.
At high latitudes such as Seattle, there is no orientation that will provide shade at all times of year.
Best they can do is center it. If they set the shade south of the benches, you get no shade in summer during the morning or late afternoon when the sun rises and sets in the north.
Whats your proposed design? Make the shade 4x bigger for 4x the price?
when the sun rises and sets in the north.
I beg your pardon?
Ok, I looked it up myself. The sun rises more in the northeast
and sets in the northwest
(https://shademap.app/@47.62818,-122.37965,16.04275z,1751686736812t,0b,0p,0m)
Check out the solar path of somewhere north of the arctic circle in summer.
This has been puzzling me all day. Does anyone know of a good animation that shows the sun’s path for different locations and different times of the year?
Does shademap.app do it for you?
There’s also Stellarium, which can be used to show the path of the sun across the sky.
Use your knuckle! The sun will be coming from the south east and setting south west. So if you had an umbrella you could point it south facing?
Even better! Make the umbrella move!
Or more beterer…make the shade laaarger!
Any of those things can be better than 1/8 of a bench available any hour past 2pm.
No that’s not how sunrise/set works in summer at far north latitudes.
Become active in your local politics. That’s where this urban design sausage is made. I’m gonna go ahead and doubt that your post here will reach many decision makers and urban designers.
The reason why you can’t angle that parasol is because it will cost more money. Anything the public can use will be abused and then broken. We cannot have nice things.
Fixed typo
Wow I’ve never seen an umbrella in a park. Crazy.
The “shades” they had in the dog park where I used to live were strsight up mesh and didn’t provide shade or cover from rain. Shit just seemed like a waste of money.
These are that. Just a mesh. I’m getting a sun burn. Just why? Can’t it be like an aluminized polycarbonate roof thing? That’s cheap material that has longevity under UV and blocks UV.
