Are they cops?
Are the ICE?
Are they cosplayers?
Source: https://redlib.northboot.xyz/r/LosAngeles/comments/1lfe5gb/ice_brandishing_silencers/
Why do they need/get to hide their faces, and carry no identification?
Every rifle used by law enforcement ought to have a silencer. If they’re gonna murder someone the absolute rock bottom very least they can do is not cause severe permanent hearing damage to a hundred other people in the vicinity.
It’s not like it’s a stealth thing. It’s not going to do anything to prevent detection and they don’t give a shit about that anyway. This isn’t a James Bond or John Wick movie so let’s not pretend silenced gunshots aren’t still unbelievably loud.
A better question is how can other cops bring a rifle into a densely populated area WITHOUT a silencer?
serious question about guns and silencers, but if it was just a tiny gun, would it not be pretty quiet and work as expected like if someone was in a bathroom and the people in the bar wouldn’t hear it?
The bigger the gun the more noise it’d make though for sure.
A good answer to your question needs more specifics, but in general, suppressed handguns with home-defense or target ammo are still loud enough to gain attention.
On the other hand, subsonic ammo will be pretty quiet and reduce the noise drastically, but unless you have the semi-auto mechanics tuned properly, the gun won’t cycle the next round in very well. I can’t speak to the stopping power of subsonic ammo but again, it probably requires specifics to give an accurate answer.
Single shots from rifles do not cause permanent hearing loss.
A better question is how can other cops bring a rifle into a densely populated area WITHOUT a silencer?
I dont even know how to respond to this part. Maybe don’t have the cops come in with the expectations to use the weapon?
I would prefer the cops not have any guns at all. They would certainly be more polite. If they are going to go do something that would need a gun they need a warrant and then 5 pages of requisition forms filled out in triplicate to request the guns.
Is this how the Average American thinks
why do we all need to continue this giant circle jerk? is there a single person here who doesn’t understand that republicans are evil, that cops are fascists, that capitalism is killing us, that our president is a fucking moron, that corporations are run by sociopaths, and that religion is the scaffolding that holds it all together?
i mean seriously. i’m confused. do you guys just enjoy joking about it all? do you need the dopamine high of dunking to the choir? why don’t we talk about solutions instead of rehashing the same old bullshit day after day?
do you guys just enjoy joking about it all?
Yes.
Morale matters.
Humor is a weapon.
Preaching to the choir is an important part of a pastor’s job - because who wants to hear the Word more than true believers do?
Online circlejerks are powerful community building tools - they reaffirm true believers’ loyalty, strengthen the commitment of moderates, and expose visiting lurkers to the movement’s perspective and the passion of its members.
Let’s not forget how racist circlejerks on FB and Reddit and the chans memed Trump into office in 2016.
Jerking about problems can’t be all a movement does, of course - but an online movement that doesn’t share memes, and in-jokes, and news that supports it, and similar kinds of community building, is dead on the ground.
It helps morale, and makes stress easier to deal with, and can build solidarity. Several years ago, in a situation where me and 131 other people were waiting for our imminent deaths, and were powerless to do anything about it, some people were freaking out, some sat in silence, and others of us joked and laughed about the situation. I actually asked one of my friends if he’d like to retake an exam, so he could maybe pass it, and sue with a better grade. He really bombed an exam badly, the day before, and there obviously wouldn’t be time for other remediation. He he told me to fuck off, we both laughed, did a “cheers” with our half empty coffees, and finished them off.
I was one of the laughers/jokers, but when the situation changed, giving us hope of survival, the laughing and joking went silent. Hope brought the stress for the rest of us. Obviously, we survived (I’m thumbing this missive out on my phone). I’ve been married over 20 years, have a couple kids.
maybe i never saw the internet as a social environment. just a space for organization.
To feel like you are a part of the solution without any real effort… oh and internet points.
then maybe more of us need to be pointing that out
So we can feel like we are part of the solution without any real effort?
well, the real effort seems to be organizing people.
To quietly murder people, obviously
These are people who think they’re playing CounterStrike for a living. Of course they’re going to look the part.
How did Watchmen so accurately predict this timeline?
Because these are just random dudes who bring their own personal weapons from home. It’s like a fashion show for them.
The far better question is why they need assault rifles?
A suppressor is actually a good thing to put on any weapon. That’s why they’re becoming standard in the military. Guns are unbelievably loud, to the point that they can cause serious and permanent hearing damage to people around you when you fire them. If you’re accepting the premise that an armed police force is a good thing (I disagree, but that’s a separate discussion) it at least makes sense to minimize collateral damage. The sound of gunfire is especially dangerous indoors; if an officer was forced to fire their weapon in an environment like they could actually seriously injure innocent bystanders just from the noise alone.
On the other hand, collateral damage is exactly why a 5.56mm carbine makes no sense as a police weapon. Those rounds will go straight through a human body, straight through a brick wall, and still be lethal. You could end up killing someone you can’t even see. It used to be that when law enforcement wanted extra firepower, they used submachine guns and shotguns, weapons with very little potential for overpenetration. But then police forces all started freaking out about the idea that every criminal was going to be wearing level 3 body armour and demanding to use the same guns soldiers use (not helped by the fact that cops in the US are allowed to buy surplus military equipment at knockdown prices).
This doesn’t come from an operational need, it comes from the fact that every cop wants to cosplay at being military, but without all the hardships that actually come with that. That’s why you see federal agents and SWAT all running around in multicam and other military camo patterns, despite the fact that those patterns really don’t do much of anything in an urban environment. It’s all just dress up to make their peepees feel bigger.
Those rounds will go straight through a human body, straight through a brick wall, and still be lethal.
This is incorrect. The 5.56 / .223 cartridge is not like in the movies. The nose of the bullet deforms on impact by design.
There are precious few cartridges that will “go through a brick wall”. There are even fewer that would be lethal on the other side of that wall.
My thought is that these rifles have no business being leveraged for this application.
Well said. If you’ve ever been next to someone at an indoor range firing large caliber rounds without a suppressor, it’s very unpleasant to be near them if you’re plinking 9mm or 22lr.
I support taking supressors off the NFA (and also abolishing the NFA altogether, but that’s another argument). Calling them silencers is incorrect. They’re safety devices. Some states don’t even classify them as firearms. Any supersonic round is still loud enough to require ear protection.
YES. That is the most annoying shit ever. I’m just tryna have a good time practicing good technique with a handgun and I have to sit and listen to some moron spray hundreds of dollars worth of ammo away so they can feel like they’re the coolest dude at the range. Then they leave and we all look around at each other like “thank fuck that asshole is finally gone eye roll emoji”
Hey! I used to be that asshole!
I’m glad you got it out of your system lol
well I mean… armed? yes! to the damn teeth like these dudes with tankettes and shit? damn no
So the police have no problem with… all of this?
Because They played a lot of counter strike
How do we know some abductions aren’t be carried out by white nationalists murdering the people they toss into vans?
One could, hypothetically, turn this around and use it to abduct MAGAts, no?
the left never sees an opportunity, unless it’s an opportunity to whine to the choir.
Is that a dare? Go ahead man, double dog dare us. Then we have to do it.
i double dog dare you
So the police?
The police normally have uniforms uncovered faces and come with warrants and badges which can be inspected verified and furthermore verified with dispatch if you call 911.
You could pretend to be an officer and people do but it would be easy to verify both at the time and after the fact making it a rarity because its hard to pull off.
Right now you could gather 3 bros and a van and snatch someone and it would probably take months to find out that they were murdered rather than in some holding facility or prison in El Salvador
I’d be surprised if the various cartels weren’t already doing this to dispose of rivals tbh.
People are more scared of the boogeyman than the people literally kidnapping folks off the street and sending them to concentration camps merely because they belong to a 3 letter agency with authority.
I mean…isn’t that what happens even if they actually are on the government payroll?
We don’t.
It helps with their suppression.
ICE are just random racists they plucked off the street last week and gave a cardboard badge they don’t have to carry. It wouldn’t surprise me if the hiring stipulation was BYOG.
they’re not random racists. They’re specific racists, that trump pardoned from federal prison like two months ago and then deputized
Why do they need AR’s in an urban domestic environment? It’s part cosplay, part intimidation factor. At least that thug is practicing proper trigger discipline.
The AR-15 is a .22 caliber rifle designed by John Browning to sell in large quantities to governments. It’s the rifle so simple that even the average US Marine can operate it. It’s got all the stopping power you need for your next trip to the nearest middle school.
I think you mean .223 or more commonly known, 5.56
Are we really being pedantic about the diameter of murder lead when our nation is hip deep in fascism?
Tbf, .223 and 5.56 are both .22 caliber rounds, as is .22lr, .22 short, .22 mag, 5.7x28, .22 nosler, .22-250, .224 valkyrie, .223 Wylde, etc.
Calibre (in this case .22) describes the bore diameter in inches (in this case .22 of an inch) or 5.6mm in metric.
Also 5.56 has higher pressures and a slightly different case (but it’ll fit) than .223, they’re not technically the same thing, though you can shoot .223 out of a 5.56 chamber. Not recommended to shoot 5.56 out of a .223, but tbh in most modern guns you’ll prob be fine (can’t sue me if your shit blows up.)
Enough firepower to gravely harm a 10 year old. Makes a realistic pow sound when discharged.
No, buddy, you’re confused. 5.56 is fine for killing grownups.
So is a Toyota Corolla.
Oh you’re just silly? Alright buddy. There’s juice in the fridge, help yourself okay?
Why are we giving the silly people the juice boxes? Juice boxes should be for closers.
My point is, everyone pretends an AR-15 is some high powered ultra mega death cannon. It’s a small bore rifle. It genuinely was adopted because it’s easy to teach the average Vietnam era draftee how to use it. It’s honestly no more threatening than the 9mm pistol every last beat cop wears on his hip every second of every shift. They’re both guns in the hands of maniacs.
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