I was looking up footage of the ICE LA thing the other day and about 2/3 comments are just “HELL YEAH! THIS IS WHAT I VOTED FOR! KICK THESE CRIMINALS OUT!”

Holy shit amerikkka

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    I disagree. By mainstream social media standards, Youtube comments aren’t as bad as its peers. Youtube comments were probably one of the few places where you could rather easily find pro-Palestine comments before October 7. Meanwhile, it’s still an uphill battle for Facebook and Reddit. If nothing else, Youtube is more international, which means less Anglo nonsense.

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      yeah youtube comments are way more tame than facebook and even reddit on non-lib topics

      there’s still a certain brand of “american news” video that just gets all the murican right wing mob going tho

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    Bet half those comments are from bot farms as well.

    The almost cookie cutter nature of the statements as if they got a template and started to write similar versions or exact copies all in around the same time period.

    Dead internet theory.

    Bot farms invade social media to hijack popular sentiment (cw international-community-1international-community-2 coded) every acusation is a confession yadda

    Governments, financial influencers, and entertainment insiders are using data center-like facilities full of phones to push narratives fabricated through fake social media engagement.

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    Basically any local tv news broadcast is a hive of nazis. I think they are all coordinating with the police to get stories out quickly and the viewership is usually receptive to racist police perspectives, and the channel is happy to cater to that for ratings.

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    After WWIII, China needs to put the west under international tutelage and a heavy denazification process. No political agency for at least 50 years while the re-education takes place on a societal scale.

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        Man it’s not everyday you get to see a live reaction of a liberal seething over something you said explicitly with the intent of rage baiting. Thank you

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            Certainly it was class consciousness that is causing China to ethnically cleanse its Uyghurs population. They must just to be too low income to be worth helping, so sterilizing them all will produce class equality right?

            Stop spreading these disgusting lies

            Get out of your own asshole.

            wonder-who-thats-for

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            if i was going to ethnically cleanse a minority population, i would not exclude them from a population control measure that i enacted on the majority population for decades

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            this comment is kind of buried so you didn’t get in-depth rebuttals, but I want to point out that if you use the search function on hexbear and search Xinjiang or Uighur you’ll get pages and pages of discussion and citations digging into all the claims that have been made in the west. The sterilization claim, for example, comes from an extremely misleading study by Adrian Zenz which used mathematical sleight of hand to drastically inflate the number of IUDs being applied in Xinjiang https://web.archive.org/web/20220908012316/https://twitter.com/abovetheclouds/status/1404918115423633414

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            Amazing how the Uyghur population goes up each year despite being ethnically cleansed. Hopefully they can teach Palestinians how to generate more people while being eliminated

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              This is a horrendous rebuttal. The Palestinian population has, in fact, gone up since the Nakba, and quite often this fact has been used to dismiss the policy of apartheid and ethnic cleansing that the Zionist entity employs.

              If you want to argue against nonsense claims about China’s policies regarding its ethnic minorities, then focus on concrete facts, such as the lack of any corroborating evidence that there is a genocide happening. If you want to compare it to Palestine, instead compare the overwhelming flood of footage and primary source evidence of the atrocities being perpetrated even under Internet blackout and blockade, and how it would be comparably impossible for there to be a targeted policy of genocide within China that didn’t have any footage or photographic evidence in the modern age.

              Raw population number is itself a terrible argument against violent repression and discrimination (Palestine is not the only example of a violently oppressed people whose population has grown, either)

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                Raw population number is itself a terrible argument against violent repression and discrimination (Palestine is not the only example of a violently oppressed people whose population has grown, either)

                Raw population numbers is a terrible argument, but relative population numbers is not. If the percentage of the total Chinese population that is Uyghur is increasing over long sustained periods of time, then that is indeed evidence against ethnic cleansing and genocide. As is China exempting the Uyghurs for years from the one-child policy, there’s literally a stronger case that China ethnically cleansed the Han majority than there is for Uyghur genocide when looking at the population numbers and policies.

                Palestinians for example, despite increasing in total population during certain periods (not since Oct 7th, 2023 though - now we have a total population decrease) has been decreasing in relative population in Occupied Palestine since the nakba. Thus you could determine ethnic cleansing was happening by just looking at the relative populations.

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                  That’s still not a great metric of ethnic cleansing. Relative populations of white people in Canada are decreasing, does that mean there is ethnic cleansing of white Canadians? Of course not. The same also goes the other way: an exploited group’s relative population increasing does not mean they are not exploited. Population levels are not on their own a very useful metric for trying to understand whether a group is being oppressed.

                  There are much better arguments to use that are clear indicators of oppression/systemic violence, since population on its own is not inherently correlated to racial discrimination. It’s so much more effective to point to, as you mention yourself, the exclusion of ethnic minorities from the one-child policy, or the increase in life expectancy, the elimination of absolute poverty, the increase in health care, cultural/religious protections, civic engagement, etc in Xinjiang (or other regions with large minority populations) to dispel myths about Chinese targeting/elimination of minority populations.

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                I don’t think the person I’m responding to would consider Palestinians as being “ethnically cleansed” before operation al-Aqsa flood. Has the Palestinian population in Palestine gone up since then ?

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                  Oh they probably wouldn’t, I’m just saying that I have seen this literal argument, that if the entity is trying to get rid of Palestinians why is their population increasing, as a way to refute the oppression of Palestinians pre-2023. So to use it in this case is just not a strong argument, because that isn’t really a metric of oppression.

                  Much clearer to point out the increase in living conditions, education, employment opportunities, health care, transit, places of worship, cultural protections, political engagement, etc. and the decrease in street violence and poverty, in Xinjiang, which is something that absolutely at no time has ever occurred for Palestinians.

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      As a social media manager for my org’s local branches Instagram, don’t get me started.

      No Meta, I don’t want to hear Peter Griffin saying “I hate n-words” for the 50th fucking time while a Family Guy clip plays. Instagram is like the anti-RedNote if that makes sense with how toxic It is. I hate that I was basically peer pressured to use It.

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    My unsourced opinion is that people who have the time to write YouTube comments, and just in general have the time to post social media garbage, are people with petite bourgeois backgrounds. I imagine it’s some fucking boomer in his McMansion in dickwad, Illinois.

    Wikipedia editing has really beaten this into me. Some people have way more time to post bullshit than I do.

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      Same with the type of people who call into radio shows. Though you have plenty of working class chuds who waste what little free time they have getting mad over political articles

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    YouTube is genuinely worse than 4chan. Obviously it’s going to depend on the channel and video. But on most vids, they like to pretend they’re being “rational” or whatever the fuck while spouting off nazi shit. At least with 4chan, they’re upfront about their chuddery.

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      4chan is one of the best social media sites simply because it doesn’t have upvotes

      the entire population is also way more lucid (either fully out nazi or not) and you don’t have to engage in this grey area of “I uhh errrr hate ILLEGALS”

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      Honestly it’s like reddit in that someone will say some wrong, fucked up shit, and then someone else will come in and ‘correct’ them with different and just as wrong, fucked up shit, they will argue for abit, and then someone else will come in and be like “Hey now stop fighting, the truth is somewhere in the middle!”. Bleh

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    How many are bots?

    We are all under psychological warfare and using bots to make it seem that most people are fine with horrible behavior is part of it.

    The purpose is to make it seem like most people are ok with it, so it looks like to you are almost alone with your opinions.

    If you are interested in psyops in general, there is a lot of info online about the term. I think most people are not really aware of it. Some countries have psy-op agencies to influence public opinion, like USA and Russia and China.