• ssillyssadass@lemmy.world
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    I’m not actually surprised that the second american civil war starts in California. Cali always seemed like the most progressive state.

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      California is only “progressive” to the extent that it makes neo-liberals richer.

      Massachusetts is the real center of progressivism in the US.

      The entire east coast is more progressive because they value modesty and hard work way more than lazy, privileged Californians.

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    Repeat after me: A government that is bluntly sending weapon to bomb kids have no concern of it is own citizen.

    Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.

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    I just want to take a moment to say the “Biden was no better than Trump” crowd can go fuck themselves.

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      These things are always so annoying and uncritical. They are not wrong that the democrats are a conservative party, but that is still where the current progressive movement lives.

      I think there is a bit of a trap in seeing the maga rise as a monolith, but I think there are two main wings. The evangelical side and the libertarian side. They might have some overlap, but their motivations and goals are still rather distinct. The important take away for this short essay of sorts is that they have agreed on enough points to move the overton window to get large parts of what they want. For the evangelicals it is abortion bans and ten commandments in schools. In the libertarian wing it is DOGE (inspired by the libertarian president in argentina)

      Tankies and others who say “Biden was no better than Trump” are really messing up our ability to have a leftist/progressive party. In either growing it with-in the dems or starting from scratch. I want to understand what they are saying, but it is frustrating how unserious they are in actually achieving goals.

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      No no, you see, voting for Biden would be voting for this too, somehow. Because they are part of the same system, or something? Both sides same and all that.

      Honestly the mental gymnastics are too much for me to effectively work out into a distilled comment.

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    These people are protesting against extrajudicial deportation, deporting children, harassing legal immigrants, the Nazi government, etc.

    It’s not a fucking immigration protest. They didn’t deploy the military for immigration protests. People spoke out against Nazis and the military was called in.

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      There is no challenging the military as the citizenry. This is terrible advice.

      What we should be doing is encouraging insubordination by service members. Why the fuck would you agree to use military force against your fellow Americans, on American soil? Not only is that unconstitutional, it’s simply not what you signed up for. Say no

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        Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and most of South America would disagree with you.

        Anyway. GovCo can’t win anyway. Not even in open hot war. They don’t have the numbers.

        Military and Natl Guard combined are less than 3,000,000 people. And that includes the logistics that makes it all work. They couldn’t handle Afghanistan and its <50,000,000 people.

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      Gavin Newson specifically said that he did not ask for or need the 2,000 troops and that sending to LA would only make things worse.

      Sooo, there’s that.

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        Legally I believe the National Guard must be mobilized for a legal reason and until Trump has identified an actual cause, he cannot mobilize them himself. So Newson should just order them to stand down.

        Newson hasn’t done that though.

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    Funny how he doesn’t hesitate here, but when Congress was literally in danger of being fucking lynched on Jan 6, he didn’t do shit.

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    2000 Guardsmen. For a city of 3 million. And a governor who doesn’t want them there. Sure. Good luck with that.

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    Shit MAGA creating their version of Tiananmen Square. I guarantee the fucking CCP and Russians are smiling.

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    How many fakes are in the crowd manipulating the situation for the oppositions political gain?

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      Normally yes, but the president has the power to federalize National Guard troops in extraordinary circumstances. That power hasn’t been exercised since 1965 though. Until now.

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    Doesn’t trump lose horribly every time he goes after CA?

    He’d have better luck waiting for something to go down in the Midwest, but yeah, w/e good luck.

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    This is actually insane. Bringing tanks to a knife fight… except it’s not even a knife fight it’s a thumb war. This is going to cause country wide rioting and Trump’s only recourse will be to further up the anti. I feel worried for you guys.

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      This is all predictable. By next summer, besides more immigration crimes, we’ll have food and product shortages, massive tariff-driven inflation, an economy roiling over his constant market manipulation, Luigi’s trial, arrests of prominent politicians and resistors, etc. There will be protests against all of these issues and more, and he will use those protests to stir up trouble and create violence.

      By next summer it will get really ugly, and he’ll declare Martial Law, and suspend the Midterm election, so he can preserve his Congressional majorities.

      Without Skum to rig the election, he will have no choice but to go with the Martial Law option.

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        more immigration crimes

        You really mean, more trumped up, fabricated, magnified and fake news, immigration crimes.

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          It’s about legal timing, at which HitlerPig is a virtuoso, due to plenty of practice. If he declares Martial Law too early, he gives the courts time to rule against him when he suspends the election, which is the primary objective.

          So he will use the next year and a few months to keep amping up the rhetoric, the atrocities, the violence, until it is out of control next summer. He’ll allow the primary race to go on, giving MAGA the opportunity to spread their propaganda, and finally cancel the election only a few weeks before.

          Until then, it’s all about escalation.