• db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    You can tell the guards there that you’re a citizen, but they’ll likely respond with some version of “tell it to the judge.” Your immigration-court appearance could be weeks, or even months, away. You will wait behind bars. There’s no right to counsel in immigration court — if you can’t afford a lawyer, you’ll have to represent yourself. When you finally see the inside of a courtroom, it could be what ICE calls a “mass removal” hearing with dozens of other defendants. You won’t have a chance to talk to a judge.

    Holy fucking shit. The injustice in this would cause me have a violent meltdown.

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      I can’t wait to get deported (I’m brown) while my son, who is white as fuck (but technically Latino) stays behind. 🫡

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    Depends on how much due process they’re willing to allow.

    I’m very white, so that’s something.

    I almost always have my drivers license on me, that should be worth something. However I’m pretty sure my state gives out licenses regardless of immigration status. Also, while I paid for RealID, I didn’t get it

    In case due process and constitutional rights were allowed, I have a passport and may be able to dig up a birth certificate. You can’t really do any better although I believe they’re already ignoring that

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    How can you do anything if you’re detained by ICE? If you have your birth certificate or passport in a safety deposit box you can’t access it when you are detained.

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      There was a guy who had his US passport card on him. ICE still detained him, claiming it was fake. And they’re desperately trying to get rid of due process, so there’s no opportunity to correct them.

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        if they have done it to one person then they are not “trying” to get rid of due process, it’s already gone. :(

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      And if there’s no more birthright citizenship, how will any of that help anyway?

      At some point very soon, I see everyone having to appear before some official, fill out pages of forms, pay a fee, and take an oath in order to be registered as a citizen.

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    Presumably yes, birth certificate. But based on news of citizens being wrongfully deported I honestly don’t know what kind of proof ICE demands.

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    No. I can’t. And probably neither can most of us. That’s part of the plan. Anybody among us could be disappeared into the gulags.

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    I have all my various types of IDs going back to high school. State, student, passports, two birth certs, name change paperwork, old and new social security card. I’ve got so many ways to prove my identity. They’d probably just steal my shit and lose it then say I must be lying

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    Probably but that’s because I’m privileged to have a space secure enough to store the magic documents that mean I’m allowed to occupy the volume required for me.

    Nations are dumb and imaginary.