OK but this is pretty funny. If this is how the new pope rolls, I’m here for it.
I’m not Catholic and don’t really care who the Pope is but I know that MAGA doesn’t like him. That makes me like him.
I went to Catholic school and most of my friends parents would have been democrats, were it not for abortion. If the new pope can convince those Catholics to stop supporting republicans, it’s a win.
would have been democrats, were it not for abortion.
Muricans are weird.
He’s still a senior member of the catholic church and is complicit in covering up their sex abuse of children, but at least he seems to be fairly not-fascist about most other topics.
Except the part where is explicitly stated marriage is between a man and a woman.
What?
It is a battle between fundamentalists on the left and right.
The Catholic institution of marriage is defined as a religious calling between a heterosexual couple.
Pope Francis clarified that even though that definition is what it is, it is cool for Catholic priests to bless same sex monogamous unions.
Unless and until a pope changes that, it the rule in the church.
The noise you hear is fundamentalists feigning outrage to manipulate morons.
The bible was written thousands of years ago by hundreds of people in different parts of the world. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that some of their beliefs were outdated and wrong.
Weird they don’t like him since he’s a pedo enabler and trump is a pedo
Might be because he already has enough pedo enablers and one more might give them away
I am already liking this guy
He must guilt trip tf out of his flock -
You know who He wants to have the bigger crowd, right?
You Damned well better.
Always the bloody Orangemen, There shall better be no Orange Sea to part yonder morrow else Wrath shall reign down like Jesuits on an undeveloped desert land.
Capisce?
He’s not just trolling MAGA, he’s trolling the media. Now they have to make a choice as to which event they cover. Do they cover the Pope, and his anti-MAGA message, or do they cover HitlerPig’s latest empty flex?
I am so happy he is using his power to bridge differences and create unity /s
You don’t unite with cancer, you excise it.
The classic refrain… Unfortunately for you, people are starting to recognize (again) that this is bullshit and Nazis have no place in society.
Not sure what is unfortunate for me here? The thing is that here are still a lot of semi-nazi’s who can be shown the evil of the new nazism. I know being centrist isn’t a hot take in the US but furthering the already huge amount of polarisation is not gonna help US citizens long term. I believe a pope should be working for the greater good. Him speaking up against Trump definitely is working for the greater good, but organising an event in the same city on the same date is a childish power play if you ask me.
So, the typical centrist take, “let’s just roll over and let the fascists do what they want without getting in their way, otherwise they might not like us. Things are absolutely shit, but don’t fight back or try to make things better, let’s just settle for this level of shit to live in and be happy with it, when the boat rocks it scares me.”
Fucking coward.
Yes that is totally what I say lol
That’s what I read.
How would allowing Trump to reach the widest possible audience work toward the greater good?
Chicago and Washington DC are different cities. Are you contending the Pope shouldn’t come to the US if the President has something planned?
Unifying against fascists is a good thing.
There is no “unity” with Nazis. They need to be purged.
Since when did US pres had military parade
When we became a shit hole authoritarian nation like what we were taught in school how the United States was better than them
CCP = GOP
More like GOP=Louis XIV
Since the us population elected an imbecilic dictator.
Since never. This sort of thing was more popular in the USSR. The US is moving in that direction, though.
Not since the troops returned from ww1 and ww2 but those weren’t for the president
And it’s for Trump’s birthday
Should have done it in Baltimore.
What context am I missing here? Why Baltimore?
Proximity to DC.
Well, why not just have it ALSO in DC?
“The Pope came to celebrate my birthday”
Sounds like a large protest in crime-addled Chicago is about to get shut down by ICE.
If it’s mostly white people they’ll have a hard time.
you’ve not been paying attention to ICE lately huh?
The only kind of MAGA I enjoy seeing is a raging pissed off MAGA, crying with impotent boomer rage. Go Leo!
I’m liking him so far
Yep, this new pope is off to a great start.
Now we just need to get some old bands back together and surround DC with aged rockers and rappers talking shit about felon 47.
Nope, elsewhere. Let’s all go elsewhere for Dear Orange Leader’s victory parade. Empty DC out
Divinely inspired
Yeah, like, his fascism jubilee isn’t going to be in Chicago, so this article is just hunting for clicks.
But the media is going to split coverage. There will be very direct comparisons of crowd sizes. Some people will have to decide which event to attend, as they can’t attend both.
The last part is the most important.
The pope coming to America is always a big deal. He’s explicitly calling on American Catholics to choose sides.
Fuck the Vatican and all but boy is it tempting to go show my “support”
I’m just going to not watch either.
Same, but if the MAGA fucks at my local bar demand one of the TVs show Trump’s shit, I’ll be just as loud about my new-found Catholicism for the TV right next to it with captions.
I bet 110% media coverage will be in DC
If he wasn’t a sexist and a homophobe I’d actually like that guy. But Catholics have a long history of misrepresenting scripture to suit their political purposes, and centuries of bad habits are hard to break.
The scriptures themselves are misogynistic and homophobic. The religion is rotten.
Judeo-Christian scriptures are many things, including misogynistic (women are literally considered property), but they are not, and never have been, homophobic. Not defending them, just pointing out one of those fun facts that gets overlooked because people accept what they’re told - including in the form of compromised translations - without ever raising a finger to confirm if it’s accurate. They want to believe it, so they do.
The Bible is explicitly anti-homosexual.
“The Bible” doesn’t exist. It’s a collection of disparate works by many different authors, from different cultures, over hundreds-to-thousands of years. Despite that, there is not a single “anti-homosexual” line anywhere in it. The word itself does not even exist in any of the original texts. Translations that include the word “homosexual” have deliberately mistranslated… and English translations in particular are especially guilty of this.
Again, I am not defending the many heinous things in those texts, I am pointing out how they have been abused, misused, and twisted by a corrupt political power for it’s own benefit.
Lol ok. Sure thing, the Bible doesn’t exist.
But when it says to stone gay dudes to death, you have to read it in cOnTeXt! And there’s a handful of fringe theologians who think they were actually just talking about gay pedo rapists!
And I mean who knows, maybe they want to get the gays high. You know, stoned. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So the proscription against gays sex in leviticus, the description of “shameful acts” in romans 26-28, or the condemnation in corinthians and timothy are what exactly?
You may want to believe, and want me to believe, that these do not exist or are always mistranslated, but I can’t believe that without evidence.
I’m also not sure why you separate the original texts from the modern circulating translations.
The bible is a living collection which is added to and removed from over time. It is what Christians believe it to be. If most Christians are using faulty translations, that is the bible.
Leviticus: raping your male slaves is incestuous, and males have more rights than females. Raping your female slaves is okay, though, if you follow some extra rules.
Paul’s letters: Temple prostitution, pederasty.
Let’s put it another way. If we’re translating Marx and replace every instance of the word “bourgeoisie” with “jews” and “proletariat” with “aryans” is it still Marx? No, it’s corrupt nazi trash. The “original” texts are still there in black and white in their original languages.
Another fun fact: hell isn’t a scriptural concept. Neither the word nor concept appears anywhere. Also, for being anti-abortion, scripture is explicitly pro-abortion. We could point out the ways that modern Christian teaching directly conflicts their own holy texts all day. My point is that the things they preach are frequently contradicted by their own texts. When someone pulls out something in english and says “look right here, it says ‘homosexual’” I can pull up the original language and point out that no, it doesn’t say that.
Once you convince the majority of Christians ill believe you.
Until then, christian scripture is what Christians follow
The pope is catholic. The catholic bible is definately homophobic. It has multiple references to a man lying with a man, and man treating a man as a woman.
It talks about incestuously raping your male slaves (but female slaves are fine if you follow some extra rules), about raping children, and about temple prostitution. None of those things concern homosexuality, particularly monogamous, consensual, not-of-the-same-household same-sex relationships.
The catholic church has twisted those things into something completely different than what they say. But we have those texts in their original languages and they are pretty darn clear. I’m amazed the church has gotten away with it for so long… but then they do have a policy of “what the church says is as good as scripture” so…
The mental gymnastics you people will go through to avoid facing reality… Sad.
You people?
Yes, you people. Ignorant Christian morons insisting that everyone lives according to a bronze age sex manual.
women are literally considered property
And what do you think life was like when those scriptures were written?
There is worthwhile sexism in current Christianity to complain about without posturing that 1,500 year old text reflects life 1,500 years ago
Name one Christian denomination that doesn’t have a history of using scripture for political purposes.
I’m not saying misrepresenting because that’s an obvious sola scriptura protestant lens, that obviously doesn’t apply to non protestants.
Organized religion is a racket. I’m not defending it, I’m pointing out that they don’t even know their own source material.
As an atheist I don’t really have skin in the game, but unorganized religion can also be a racket. At least with organized religion there can exist some degree of accountability, whereas with new age quacks there is nothing.
Name one <insert organized religion here> denomination that doesn’t have a history of using scripture for political purposes.
There, FTFY
Two-Scoops wanted this parade in his first term, but the military told him the roads in DC wouldn’t take the weight or something. Apparently he wanted it so bad he made somebody find a city where it would work. edit: my bad, I assumed he was having the parade in Chicago, it will be in DC - where the army says it will do $16 million in damage to the streets. This has been factored into the $45 million price tag. Fun trivia: this is enough to build 3 new typical size high schools - but at least we know it’s for a good cause! Happy Birthday, Taco Boy.
I’m all for the complaints but no way you build a high school for that little these days. You might be surprised just how expensive all the services can be.
While I do live in a large town in a high cost of living state and we got one with all the fixings, our just finished new high school was
- $377,719,720
Most will be cheaper but not anywhere near as cheap as you expect
Well yeah, you can spend as much as you want, but according to what I looked up the average cost of a TYPICAL high school (I was careful to use that word) was $7-8 million in 2024.
https://truthinamericaneducation.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-build-a-school/
High schools tend to be the most expensive type of K-12 educational facility to construct, with costs ranging from $50 million to $100 million or more for a comprehensive institution serving around 1,500 students.
But I see what you mean, what I see online is all over the place. This might be telling - Maine is cheaper and tends to have smaller schools but check out the serious inflation in sq ft construction cost
In 2015, it cost $270 per-square-foot to rebuild an elementary school. In 2017, it cost $313 and in 2018, $379. In 2023 the cost jumped to $491 and in 2024 reached $661. The cost of building middle and high schools in the state follows the same trend.
My mother is so happy to have tickets for this.
