lmao you could have said coco or diamonds or meat packing or the World Cup or gestured vaguely at the country with the highest prison population, but you had to go with the fictional example. Or do you genuinely think China has slaves driving combine harvesters (unlike Angola or a dozen other prisons where slaves pick cotton by hand)?
I mean I don’t like tankies either but is this user wrong? it’s a little weird to use these flippant (and frankly, derogatory) stereotypes about China when there are so many examples of it around the world
it’s 2025 and we’re in middle of a trade war with china, just recovering from “kung flu” narratives and the far right just ran on a platform of fearmongering about china to initiate a fascist takeover of the USA.
maybe we should be mindful of how we talk about China.
Look, this isn’t about gotchas, can we be cool for a second here? I’m not doing this. The point is that even though the global economic system has abuses everywhere, you chose to use an example that is both racially and politically charged. When called out about it, specifically that there are numerous examples that both hit closer to home and lack the baggage of your chosen example, how did you react? You immediately dismissed the criticism as coming from a group who you view as holding a number of untenable positions, thus allowing you to dismiss the criticism without engaging with it.
This is the group-think mentality that causes us all problems. It’s nothing personal man. Just please be sensitive that there’s a lot of rhetoric around China right now that ultimately comes back to hurt your own neighbors.
(I mention chocolate because it’s such a poignant example: something many of us enjoy regularly is primarily produced via child labor. I think that would have been the best way to make your point about there being multiple scumbags, including people who don’t tip and people who eat chocolate.)
If someone is not even attempting to getting the law that allows their core income to come from tips changed that makes one complicit and therefore obligated to tip.
If you are fine with server’s primary income coming from tips then you are obligated to tip.
Not those refusing to pay them properly?
If you knowingly buy chinese goods produced with slave labor you’re a shitbag and they’re a shitbag. There can be more than one shitbag in the chain.
how far do you want to take it, though? who made your socks?
https://carolinahosiery.com/ And I can not recommend them enough. Seriously the best work socks I’ve found.
I want to take it as far as it needs to go.
don’t know why i’m getting downvoted, i was just trying to make a point. and you countered beautifully.
Mine was too at first. Lemmings be lemmings. It kind of acts like when reddit started doing “vote fuzzing”. I don’t pay them any mind.
nah, i know for sure i’ve pissed some people off with all my shitposting and now they just downvote all my comments lol
lmao you could have said coco or diamonds or meat packing or the World Cup or gestured vaguely at the country with the highest prison population, but you had to go with the fictional example. Or do you genuinely think China has slaves driving combine harvesters (unlike Angola or a dozen other prisons where slaves pick cotton by hand)?
Tankies can fuck off.
I mean I don’t like tankies either but is this user wrong? it’s a little weird to use these flippant (and frankly, derogatory) stereotypes about China when there are so many examples of it around the world
it’s 2025 and we’re in middle of a trade war with china, just recovering from “kung flu” narratives and the far right just ran on a platform of fearmongering about china to initiate a fascist takeover of the USA.
maybe we should be mindful of how we talk about China.
Yes. Do you have reputable sources that show no chinese goods are made using Uyghur forced labor?
Do you eat chocolate?
No, not really. But I’m sure we can find some “got-ya” if we keep going. Carry on.
Edit: you got anything else? Or was that it?
Look, this isn’t about gotchas, can we be cool for a second here? I’m not doing this. The point is that even though the global economic system has abuses everywhere, you chose to use an example that is both racially and politically charged. When called out about it, specifically that there are numerous examples that both hit closer to home and lack the baggage of your chosen example, how did you react? You immediately dismissed the criticism as coming from a group who you view as holding a number of untenable positions, thus allowing you to dismiss the criticism without engaging with it.
This is the group-think mentality that causes us all problems. It’s nothing personal man. Just please be sensitive that there’s a lot of rhetoric around China right now that ultimately comes back to hurt your own neighbors.
(I mention chocolate because it’s such a poignant example: something many of us enjoy regularly is primarily produced via child labor. I think that would have been the best way to make your point about there being multiple scumbags, including people who don’t tip and people who eat chocolate.)
Yes, the people refusing to pay them properly are the shitbags. The employer is a shitbag, and the customer who refuses to tip is a shitbag.
If someone is not even attempting to getting the law that allows their core income to come from tips changed that makes one complicit and therefore obligated to tip.
If you are fine with server’s primary income coming from tips then you are obligated to tip.