Only 22% of the nation voted for Trump. Many of them already regret their votes. Trump won on the apathy of the majority. Defeatism is simply fuel for that fire.
It’s certainly off to an authoritarian start with chaotic economic impacts. My politics are extremely anti-authoritarian so I’m not at all happy. I don’t care as much about the stock market, I have zero investments. I do care about wages and the job market. But it’s pretty early to really judge his term. I’d guess he’ll lose his Senate majority in the midterms, maybe the House too. But what really matters is what people think 3.5 years in when they’re looking at the next election. I’m actually in Ohio so I’ve had my eye on Vance for longer than most, and I don’t like him at all. Will it be a dumpster fire then? Likely. That’s where the whole world seems to be going anyway. But I can’t predict the future.
The nazi party was started in 1919. And they lasted until 1945. Which is a total of… 26 years!
And that was with the special situation they had where Germany got blamed for all after ww1 essentially giving them way more power quicker.
But then when they failed on a global scale, the idealogy didn’t die, as we can tell from the actual nazis still parading around today. And while they were scheming in the background they took note on what not to do again. Everything else has advanced and gotten smarter, why would you think the evil side hasn’t done the same thing?
I wish this was for the lols but I’m legitimately hopeless. I keep looking for an argument that this hopelessness isn’t accurate but I just get the same platitudes.
I would argue total hopelessness is inaccurate because things can change in ways we don’t anticipate. The US will collapse as all empires have, and the world will become a better place, but it will be a rough transition and things will get extra fucked as climate change worsens. Many more people are working to make things better for each other than there are people working to fuck us over, they are just better organized right now.
But anyway the level of hope you feel is more likely to be dictated by whatever material reality you are experiencing. If you are actually looking for a logical argument against hopelessness in an effort to reduce it there are better ways.
Many more people are working to make things better for each other than there are people working to fuck us over, they are just better organized right now.
This is what it has been my entire life. Since 2001 the world has been on a cyclical descent into ruin, missing every chance it had to do something, failing at ever call to action.
My personal reality is pretty awesome, though. I just want to keep them safe from the rest of the species as it descends into barbarism.
There will never be enough fresh blood.
Even if the democrats were all progressives and had 100% of the entire government things are too fucked to be fixed before the collapse.
Also, I vote in every primary and they always lose. Turns out we’re just a conservative country.
Only 22% of the nation voted for Trump. Many of them already regret their votes. Trump won on the apathy of the majority. Defeatism is simply fuel for that fire.
They won because the Biden admin was a dumpster fire.
How do you describe this administration?
It’s certainly off to an authoritarian start with chaotic economic impacts. My politics are extremely anti-authoritarian so I’m not at all happy. I don’t care as much about the stock market, I have zero investments. I do care about wages and the job market. But it’s pretty early to really judge his term. I’d guess he’ll lose his Senate majority in the midterms, maybe the House too. But what really matters is what people think 3.5 years in when they’re looking at the next election. I’m actually in Ohio so I’ve had my eye on Vance for longer than most, and I don’t like him at all. Will it be a dumpster fire then? Likely. That’s where the whole world seems to be going anyway. But I can’t predict the future.
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Well then he’s gonna win again because most people are apathetic and this country is doomed.
Serves me right for trying to do the right thing.
Spreading apathy through pessimistic defeatism is the right thing? In that case, I’d rather be wrong.
We got here through division and disengagement. Only unity and action will get us out.
I’ve been engaged for 25 years and we still got here anyway.
Do you think fighting evil is an overnight thing?
25 years is hardly “overnight”
The Nazis rose to power and were defeated in less time.
Someone doesn’t know their history.
The nazi party was started in 1919. And they lasted until 1945. Which is a total of… 26 years!
And that was with the special situation they had where Germany got blamed for all after ww1 essentially giving them way more power quicker.
But then when they failed on a global scale, the idealogy didn’t die, as we can tell from the actual nazis still parading around today. And while they were scheming in the background they took note on what not to do again. Everything else has advanced and gotten smarter, why would you think the evil side hasn’t done the same thing?
I was counting from the time Hitler took office in 1933.
But you can miss me with this Sisyphean struggle shit. I want to enjoy life and not spend it being frustrated, defeated, and harassed.
I like problems that can be solved. Which is why I hate people. By your measure we’ve been fighting evil since agriculture taught us the word “mine.”
You think a constant stream of pessimism is engaging others? C’mon. You know what you’re doing.
I have yet to see evidence to the contrary.
The alternative is me drinking or shouting at traffic at it whizzes by.
Convince me there is literally any hope at all and I might stop.
Or just block me. I don’t care anymore.
Not a chance. I’ll always be right here, to combat your cynicism with actionable criticism for improvement.
Fire away then. Make me believe we are not totally fucked
Your name is “Doomergod”. You’re just spewing doom for lols.
What a jerk.
I wish this was for the lols but I’m legitimately hopeless. I keep looking for an argument that this hopelessness isn’t accurate but I just get the same platitudes.
I would argue total hopelessness is inaccurate because things can change in ways we don’t anticipate. The US will collapse as all empires have, and the world will become a better place, but it will be a rough transition and things will get extra fucked as climate change worsens. Many more people are working to make things better for each other than there are people working to fuck us over, they are just better organized right now.
But anyway the level of hope you feel is more likely to be dictated by whatever material reality you are experiencing. If you are actually looking for a logical argument against hopelessness in an effort to reduce it there are better ways.
This is what it has been my entire life. Since 2001 the world has been on a cyclical descent into ruin, missing every chance it had to do something, failing at ever call to action.
My personal reality is pretty awesome, though. I just want to keep them safe from the rest of the species as it descends into barbarism.