The nazi party was started in 1919. And they lasted until 1945. Which is a total of… 26 years!
And that was with the special situation they had where Germany got blamed for all after ww1 essentially giving them way more power quicker.
But then when they failed on a global scale, the idealogy didn’t die, as we can tell from the actual nazis still parading around today. And while they were scheming in the background they took note on what not to do again. Everything else has advanced and gotten smarter, why would you think the evil side hasn’t done the same thing?
Well it’s easy to be right of you just move the goalposts to wherever you kick the ball. Good job.
You act like you’re the only one who wants to be happy. All of us want be happy you dunce. I’ll be a lot happier when innocent people aren’t beaten, taken advantage of, blamed for everything, and given no help.
And yes. Fighting evil is an everlong battle. We just so happen to be living in a time where it’s rearing up to an extent we haven’t seen for a bit. And its harder this time since theyre more prepared and have been laying the ground work for the past 50 years
And I’ve been sounding the alarm and voting and donating and phone banking and advocating and writing my representatives for half that time and I’m sick of it.
It’s y’all’s turn now. I’m done trying to keep this shithole country on a shithole planet covered with shitty apes from destroying itself.
No offense, but I’m not trying to change your mind. I’ve been convinced you’re pretty content in your perspective for quite some time now. It’s about how your words influence others that concerns me. Most people are passively informed. If all they hear is Democrats are useless, they’re less likely to believe voting matters.
I wish this was for the lols but I’m legitimately hopeless. I keep looking for an argument that this hopelessness isn’t accurate but I just get the same platitudes.
I would argue total hopelessness is inaccurate because things can change in ways we don’t anticipate. The US will collapse as all empires have, and the world will become a better place, but it will be a rough transition and things will get extra fucked as climate change worsens. Many more people are working to make things better for each other than there are people working to fuck us over, they are just better organized right now.
But anyway the level of hope you feel is more likely to be dictated by whatever material reality you are experiencing. If you are actually looking for a logical argument against hopelessness in an effort to reduce it there are better ways.
Many more people are working to make things better for each other than there are people working to fuck us over, they are just better organized right now.
This is what it has been my entire life. Since 2001 the world has been on a cyclical descent into ruin, missing every chance it had to do something, failing at ever call to action.
My personal reality is pretty awesome, though. I just want to keep them safe from the rest of the species as it descends into barbarism.
Well then he’s gonna win again because most people are apathetic and this country is doomed.
Serves me right for trying to do the right thing.
Spreading apathy through pessimistic defeatism is the right thing? In that case, I’d rather be wrong.
We got here through division and disengagement. Only unity and action will get us out.
I’ve been engaged for 25 years and we still got here anyway.
Do you think fighting evil is an overnight thing?
25 years is hardly “overnight”
The Nazis rose to power and were defeated in less time.
Someone doesn’t know their history.
The nazi party was started in 1919. And they lasted until 1945. Which is a total of… 26 years!
And that was with the special situation they had where Germany got blamed for all after ww1 essentially giving them way more power quicker.
But then when they failed on a global scale, the idealogy didn’t die, as we can tell from the actual nazis still parading around today. And while they were scheming in the background they took note on what not to do again. Everything else has advanced and gotten smarter, why would you think the evil side hasn’t done the same thing?
I was counting from the time Hitler took office in 1933.
But you can miss me with this Sisyphean struggle shit. I want to enjoy life and not spend it being frustrated, defeated, and harassed.
I like problems that can be solved. Which is why I hate people. By your measure we’ve been fighting evil since agriculture taught us the word “mine.”
Well it’s easy to be right of you just move the goalposts to wherever you kick the ball. Good job.
You act like you’re the only one who wants to be happy. All of us want be happy you dunce. I’ll be a lot happier when innocent people aren’t beaten, taken advantage of, blamed for everything, and given no help.
And yes. Fighting evil is an everlong battle. We just so happen to be living in a time where it’s rearing up to an extent we haven’t seen for a bit. And its harder this time since theyre more prepared and have been laying the ground work for the past 50 years
And I’ve been sounding the alarm and voting and donating and phone banking and advocating and writing my representatives for half that time and I’m sick of it.
It’s y’all’s turn now. I’m done trying to keep this shithole country on a shithole planet covered with shitty apes from destroying itself.
You think a constant stream of pessimism is engaging others? C’mon. You know what you’re doing.
I have yet to see evidence to the contrary.
The alternative is me drinking or shouting at traffic at it whizzes by.
Convince me there is literally any hope at all and I might stop.
Or just block me. I don’t care anymore.
Not a chance. I’ll always be right here, to combat your cynicism with actionable criticism for improvement.
Fire away then. Make me believe we are not totally fucked
No offense, but I’m not trying to change your mind. I’ve been convinced you’re pretty content in your perspective for quite some time now. It’s about how your words influence others that concerns me. Most people are passively informed. If all they hear is Democrats are useless, they’re less likely to believe voting matters.
Didn’t think so. That’s how fucked we are. I’ve been trying to find a way out for months.
And if the democrats don’t want people to think they’re useless they should stop being so fucking useless.
Your name is “Doomergod”. You’re just spewing doom for lols.
What a jerk.
I wish this was for the lols but I’m legitimately hopeless. I keep looking for an argument that this hopelessness isn’t accurate but I just get the same platitudes.
I would argue total hopelessness is inaccurate because things can change in ways we don’t anticipate. The US will collapse as all empires have, and the world will become a better place, but it will be a rough transition and things will get extra fucked as climate change worsens. Many more people are working to make things better for each other than there are people working to fuck us over, they are just better organized right now.
But anyway the level of hope you feel is more likely to be dictated by whatever material reality you are experiencing. If you are actually looking for a logical argument against hopelessness in an effort to reduce it there are better ways.
This is what it has been my entire life. Since 2001 the world has been on a cyclical descent into ruin, missing every chance it had to do something, failing at ever call to action.
My personal reality is pretty awesome, though. I just want to keep them safe from the rest of the species as it descends into barbarism.