Excellent since you must submit to me. I command you to stop telling women to do this.
Check mate
She doesn’t have to listen to you, you’re not her first or second husband.
Since we’re going back to the caveman days all I need to do is kill her husbands and she becomes my wife.
That’s what she wants, right? For women to become property again?
Apparently she’s on her third, not second.
EDIT: Though apparently her first husband abused their son, so now I feel a little bad.
Yeah, I feel sorry for her son, but that’s because he has 2 monsters as parents.
Spirit animal goals
Ribbit against the machine?
If anybody wants a reason religion needs to die look no further than subjugation of half our population for religion to exist.
Sounds like she shouldn’t have gotten divorced three times if she gave a fuck what Jesus said.
But the prosperity gospel types know they’re scammers, so she’ll laugh all the way to the bank.
She was laughing AT the bank too, I saw her.
How could she accept the role of the head of an office if she thinks women should submit to men?
Hypocrisy is the water conservative “Christians” swim in.
1 Tim. 2:11-12: “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.”
Be silent Paula
FYI to Lemmy non-Christian’s: Paula White is an incredibly controversial figure in the evangelical community. Specifically, many believe her to be perpetuating fraud by demanding money from her followers in exchange for specific acts of prosperity provided by God (and even to ask God to smite your enemies). This differs from traditional tithing which typically is used for salaries, services (keeping the lights on), and community outreach.
Why evangelicals can’t point to her malfeasance as evidence of Trump’s corruption is a mystery to me. Additionally many conservative Christians don’t believe women should be in a position of authority, citing the same scripture she is here as evidence. If she were morally consistent she’d quit her “ministry” and go home.
If she were morally consistent she’d quit her “ministry” and go home.
This was the first thought I had when I read the headline.
Specifically, many believe her to be perpetuating fraud by demanding money from her followers in exchange for specific acts of prosperity provided by God (and even to ask God to smite your enemies).
Sounds like the Prosperity Gospel to me.
Fraud is a religion
That implies that there are non-fraudulent evangelicals.
John Brown wasn’t fraudulent and he was certainly evangelical. Though I guess this is the difference between big E modern Evangelicals and little e old school evangelicals
Also as a quick aside my phone keeps trying to auto correct evangelical to Evangelion, I haven’t even watched it. All I know about it is “Crank that Soulja Boy Shinji”
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil
The problem of evil is the philosophical question of how to reconcile the existence of evil and suffering with an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God.
wish I could spit in the face of every fucking idiot who feels the urge to spread Christianity in any way. keep that idiotic bullshit tf from my life, you’re all clowns and actors
It’s counterproductive, even for the ones that once thought it was a way to improve society. They are just being used, and should reconsider if they are doing more harm than good.
They are just being used, and should reconsider
Reconsider?! Whoa there. That’s too much like thinkin’ which is the devil’s work.
What would be more awesome? Walking on water? Or flying thru a lake at ludicrous speeds on a jet? Or same but on a jetpack? Or same but at 30,000feet on a Boeing flying machine?
Also imagine a Boeing plane sitting on 30,000 feet? Why!!!
https://lemm.ee/c/open_christian
knock yourself out
that comm seems to be quite progressive, and very intent to interpret Christianity in a good and helpful way. bit weird to target them tbh.
OP needed change of heart, maybe they’ll induce one.
Feel free to spit in my face then.
I’d argue that what these people are spreading is about as close to Christianity as Trump’s sharpie hurricane map is to an actual hurricane though; damaging and ignorant by misleading people.
As an example, they say God orders women to submit to their husbands. They get that from a letter Paul of Tarsus wrote to a group of early Christians in response to the way a particular group of (uneducated, likely trophy) wives were behaving that wasn’t in line with Jesus’ teachings to put others before themselves, because they misunderstood the bit about Jesus being an ultimate sacrifice that freed people from Jewish law to mean that you could behave however you wanted, and all would be forgiven. Paul told them that’s not how things work, and to ask their (likely educated in Jewish law) husbands to explain it to them at home instead of disrupting public meetings by preaching junk like this.
Unfortunately, a lot if what the public sees of Christianity in the US is remixes of exactly the same things the Bible these people own directly instructs against.
Jesus was a socialist pacifist. These people attempt to re-make him in their own image, taking instructions from his immediate followers out of context to justify their behavior, totally ignoring actual direct commands like “love your enemies and do good to those who hate you.”
I don’t disagree with you that these people are taking a message that seems inconsistent with the biblical portrayal of Jesus. But the above comment was criticising people “who feel the urge to spread Christianity in any way”. Which, yeah. Fuck them. If someone wants to do their research and convert to Christianity because they like it, more power to them.
But introducing children to that nonsense (by which I mean belief in resurrections and other obviously ridiculous bullshit, even if it’s not directly used to cause tangible harm) as though it’s fact at a vulnerable young age should be considered child abuse. And preying on vulnerable lonely or depressed people and using highly manipulative tactics like love bombing the way many evangelical branches of Christianity do, as do Mormons and I believe Jehovah’s Witnesses, should also be considered abusive behaviour.
As part of that group, you own ALL their bad behavior, because your group doesn’t do anything to remove that element from the group.
So now that distorted sharpie-version of Christianity IS the actual and real Christianity, even if you don’t like it. You can either accept that being a christian is very similar to being a garbage nazi, or you can start to kick them out.
But they’re yours, and you’re theirs
Yup; upvoted, and doing exactly this.
But that same argument can be applied at all levels. These people are also Americans and humans, with a distorted sharpie-version of both identities.
We all need to own our shared identity with these people while rejecting the false narratives they stand behind.
“Humans” nor “Americans” are a group that espouse moral authority. So of course there’s a HUGE difference, and I’m not sure your point is anything but whataboutism
How do Americans have more moral authority right now than Christians? They’re overlapping groups that as a whole are behaving pretty badly right now. You could apply the same logic here to police officers or many other groups (manyotherism?)
You may have a point with humanity as a whole, as there’s only one way to exit that group and it’s not going to be an effective solution to the world’s current problems.
It’s not “whataboutisn” when someone says “I own that and I’m doing what I can to fix things. This needs to be applied to other groups as well” though. That’s a “yes, and” not a “not this but that” argument.
In this context, the other groups are brought up solely to illustrate the issues, and not to condone the bad behavior festering inside the larger group that self-identifies as Christian.
How do Americans have more moral authority right now than Christians?
Uh, what?
Imma be honest, I don’t know what they said either, but in part it’s because your comment that they’re replying to didn’t make sense.
“Humans” nor “Americans” are a group that espouse moral authority.
This doesn’t scan at all.
As part of that group, you own ALL their bad behavior
Out of curiosity, have you ever used the phrase “No True Scotsman” when people try to claim someone isn’t really a Christian?
open up for me 🛐
No true Scotsman. All religion is evil by nature of faith over evidence and magical thinking.
No true Scotsman
And above you is someone saying any Christian is responsible for the actions of everyone who claims to be a Christian. So what is a Christian to do?
They’re not allowed to reject someone and the things they are saying because “No True Scotsman”, but they are also held responsible for the things this other person does because they have not expelled them somehow, which is something they aren’t allowed to do.
If you’re going to say “No True Scotsman” then you can’t also claim every “Scotsman” is responsible for the actions of every other “Scotsman”.
You won’t like the answer. If you don’t want to be lumped in with other magical thinkers, then don’t be a magical thinker, else you’re in the same boat and should be evaluated the same. All flavors are the same and all are destructive, just with differing exact details. It is possible to be a scientific thinker and be evil, but this can be changed with evidence on the whole, but it is not possible to be a magical thinker and to not contribute to evil, and those aspects cannot be changed as they are core to a faulty methodology of thinking which is pervasive, insidious, and pseudo-randomly aligned with changing educational theory. If you think it’s possible to only align magical thinking with benevolent acts, you’re wrong.
So you’re “No True Scotsman” was not in regards to “Christian” but in regards to “Religious”? I don’t think OP was claiming these people aren’t religious, OP was claiming that OP’s beliefs and these people believes do not overlap.
Do you seriously think “Christian”, “Buddhist” and “Hindu” are all the same?
but it is not possible to be a magical thinker and to not contribute to evil
Over 75% of people in the world in religious in some way or another: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_irreligion
By your logic the world is overrun by evil people.
WTF is a “Faith Office” and why didn’t DOGE cut it
Because “DOGE” isn’t about efficiency, but rather enforcing far-right ideology, by making anything left of Mussolini ineffective.
Hey if that’s her kink, good on her. But keep it to yourself lady
It’s her kink for that to happen to other women, it doesn’t apply to her. They’re all like that.
Before I was banned, my highest up-voted post on Reddit was a clip of this woman babbling in tongues for God to intervene in the 2020 election.
HAHA fucking found it! I challenge you to watch it and not laugh.
I recently got banned for saying we should have hanged all southern traitors after the civil war
I was banned for up voting this image:
I got banned for suggesting that government officials who violate people’s constitutional right to due process and get them killed as a result would be prosecuted for capital murder. Apparently, that’s “inciting violence”. I appealed it, simply to say “fuck spez”, and promptly deleted my account.
I had one of my account banned for saying a dude deserved that slap to the face for calling a black dude the n word.
Lol what’s up with the guy walking behind her with a towel, is he trying to leave the planet?
He’s the hype man. The Flava Flav of Prosperity Theology.
She’s talking about angels coming from south america and africa to help trump win an election. Sounds to me like the church needs to be investigated for illegal immigration and voter fraud.
Arguably Trump’s most ardent supporters, Pentecostal-charismatic faith-based media moguls have enjoyed unprecedented access to the White House during Trump’s tenure. In return, they have showered the president with praise and loyalty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaking_in_tongues
Speaking in tongues, also known as glossolalia, is an activity or practice in which people utter words or speech-like sounds, often thought by believers to be languages unknown to the speaker. One definition used by linguists is the fluid vocalizing of speech-like syllables that lack any readily comprehensible meaning. In some cases, as part of religious practice, some believe it to be a divine language unknown to the speaker.[1] Glossolalia is practiced in Pentecostal and charismatic Christianity,[2][3] as well as in other religions.[4]
EDIT: Also, someone on that page you linked to did a cat version:
So I hear they want angels from Africa and South America to come to the US and vote for Trump.
Techno cat version is great
Why is there even a faith office? gtfooh
Because the “Heritage” foundation paid for it, and they’re a bunch of Xian Fundies. Project 2025 (which Trump knows absolutely nothing about, he says so himself) is their baby.
Well because they’re Nazis
Dates back to Bush’s “Office of Faith-Based Initiatives”. Sounds like it gets hauled out again whenever it feels like support from the religious crowd might be a little soft.
I wish conservative women would shut up as much as they ask other women to.
“I’m up here working on the initiatives for President [Trump], who’s been in ministry for 40 years and understands it,” she insisted.
WTF? Show ANY evidence at all of 40 years of HitlerPig’s “ministry,” specifically anything BEFORE he decided to run for president.
