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    Excellent since you must submit to me. I command you to stop telling women to do this.

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        Since we’re going back to the caveman days all I need to do is kill her husbands and she becomes my wife.

        That’s what she wants, right? For women to become property again?

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        Apparently she’s on her third, not second.

        EDIT: Though apparently her first husband abused their son, so now I feel a little bad.

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          Yeah, I feel sorry for her son, but that’s because he has 2 monsters as parents.

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    If anybody wants a reason religion needs to die look no further than subjugation of half our population for religion to exist.

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    Sounds like she shouldn’t have gotten divorced three times if she gave a fuck what Jesus said.

    But the prosperity gospel types know they’re scammers, so she’ll laugh all the way to the bank.

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    How could she accept the role of the head of an office if she thinks women should submit to men?

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    FYI to Lemmy non-Christian’s: Paula White is an incredibly controversial figure in the evangelical community. Specifically, many believe her to be perpetuating fraud by demanding money from her followers in exchange for specific acts of prosperity provided by God (and even to ask God to smite your enemies). This differs from traditional tithing which typically is used for salaries, services (keeping the lights on), and community outreach.

    Why evangelicals can’t point to her malfeasance as evidence of Trump’s corruption is a mystery to me. Additionally many conservative Christians don’t believe women should be in a position of authority, citing the same scripture she is here as evidence. If she were morally consistent she’d quit her “ministry” and go home.

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      If she were morally consistent she’d quit her “ministry” and go home.

      This was the first thought I had when I read the headline.

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      Specifically, many believe her to be perpetuating fraud by demanding money from her followers in exchange for specific acts of prosperity provided by God (and even to ask God to smite your enemies).

      Sounds like the Prosperity Gospel to me.

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          John Brown wasn’t fraudulent and he was certainly evangelical. Though I guess this is the difference between big E modern Evangelicals and little e old school evangelicals

          Also as a quick aside my phone keeps trying to auto correct evangelical to Evangelion, I haven’t even watched it. All I know about it is “Crank that Soulja Boy Shinji”

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    9 days ago

    wish I could spit in the face of every fucking idiot who feels the urge to spread Christianity in any way. keep that idiotic bullshit tf from my life, you’re all clowns and actors

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      It’s counterproductive, even for the ones that once thought it was a way to improve society. They are just being used, and should reconsider if they are doing more harm than good.

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        They are just being used, and should reconsider

        Reconsider?! Whoa there. That’s too much like thinkin’ which is the devil’s work.

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      What would be more awesome? Walking on water? Or flying thru a lake at ludicrous speeds on a jet? Or same but on a jetpack? Or same but at 30,000feet on a Boeing flying machine?

      Also imagine a Boeing plane sitting on 30,000 feet? Why!!!

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      Feel free to spit in my face then.

      I’d argue that what these people are spreading is about as close to Christianity as Trump’s sharpie hurricane map is to an actual hurricane though; damaging and ignorant by misleading people.

      As an example, they say God orders women to submit to their husbands. They get that from a letter Paul of Tarsus wrote to a group of early Christians in response to the way a particular group of (uneducated, likely trophy) wives were behaving that wasn’t in line with Jesus’ teachings to put others before themselves, because they misunderstood the bit about Jesus being an ultimate sacrifice that freed people from Jewish law to mean that you could behave however you wanted, and all would be forgiven. Paul told them that’s not how things work, and to ask their (likely educated in Jewish law) husbands to explain it to them at home instead of disrupting public meetings by preaching junk like this.

      Unfortunately, a lot if what the public sees of Christianity in the US is remixes of exactly the same things the Bible these people own directly instructs against.

      Jesus was a socialist pacifist. These people attempt to re-make him in their own image, taking instructions from his immediate followers out of context to justify their behavior, totally ignoring actual direct commands like “love your enemies and do good to those who hate you.”

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        I don’t disagree with you that these people are taking a message that seems inconsistent with the biblical portrayal of Jesus. But the above comment was criticising people “who feel the urge to spread Christianity in any way”. Which, yeah. Fuck them. If someone wants to do their research and convert to Christianity because they like it, more power to them.

        But introducing children to that nonsense (by which I mean belief in resurrections and other obviously ridiculous bullshit, even if it’s not directly used to cause tangible harm) as though it’s fact at a vulnerable young age should be considered child abuse. And preying on vulnerable lonely or depressed people and using highly manipulative tactics like love bombing the way many evangelical branches of Christianity do, as do Mormons and I believe Jehovah’s Witnesses, should also be considered abusive behaviour.

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        As part of that group, you own ALL their bad behavior, because your group doesn’t do anything to remove that element from the group.

        So now that distorted sharpie-version of Christianity IS the actual and real Christianity, even if you don’t like it. You can either accept that being a christian is very similar to being a garbage nazi, or you can start to kick them out.

        But they’re yours, and you’re theirs

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          Yup; upvoted, and doing exactly this.

          But that same argument can be applied at all levels. These people are also Americans and humans, with a distorted sharpie-version of both identities.

          We all need to own our shared identity with these people while rejecting the false narratives they stand behind.

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            “Humans” nor “Americans” are a group that espouse moral authority. So of course there’s a HUGE difference, and I’m not sure your point is anything but whataboutism

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              How do Americans have more moral authority right now than Christians? They’re overlapping groups that as a whole are behaving pretty badly right now. You could apply the same logic here to police officers or many other groups (manyotherism?)

              You may have a point with humanity as a whole, as there’s only one way to exit that group and it’s not going to be an effective solution to the world’s current problems.

              It’s not “whataboutisn” when someone says “I own that and I’m doing what I can to fix things. This needs to be applied to other groups as well” though. That’s a “yes, and” not a “not this but that” argument.

              In this context, the other groups are brought up solely to illustrate the issues, and not to condone the bad behavior festering inside the larger group that self-identifies as Christian.

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                  Imma be honest, I don’t know what they said either, but in part it’s because your comment that they’re replying to didn’t make sense.

                  “Humans” nor “Americans” are a group that espouse moral authority.

                  This doesn’t scan at all.

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          As part of that group, you own ALL their bad behavior

          Out of curiosity, have you ever used the phrase “No True Scotsman” when people try to claim someone isn’t really a Christian?

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          No true Scotsman

          And above you is someone saying any Christian is responsible for the actions of everyone who claims to be a Christian. So what is a Christian to do?

          They’re not allowed to reject someone and the things they are saying because “No True Scotsman”, but they are also held responsible for the things this other person does because they have not expelled them somehow, which is something they aren’t allowed to do.

          If you’re going to say “No True Scotsman” then you can’t also claim every “Scotsman” is responsible for the actions of every other “Scotsman”.

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            You won’t like the answer. If you don’t want to be lumped in with other magical thinkers, then don’t be a magical thinker, else you’re in the same boat and should be evaluated the same. All flavors are the same and all are destructive, just with differing exact details. It is possible to be a scientific thinker and be evil, but this can be changed with evidence on the whole, but it is not possible to be a magical thinker and to not contribute to evil, and those aspects cannot be changed as they are core to a faulty methodology of thinking which is pervasive, insidious, and pseudo-randomly aligned with changing educational theory. If you think it’s possible to only align magical thinking with benevolent acts, you’re wrong.

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              So you’re “No True Scotsman” was not in regards to “Christian” but in regards to “Religious”? I don’t think OP was claiming these people aren’t religious, OP was claiming that OP’s beliefs and these people believes do not overlap.

              Do you seriously think “Christian”, “Buddhist” and “Hindu” are all the same?

              but it is not possible to be a magical thinker and to not contribute to evil

              Over 75% of people in the world in religious in some way or another: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_irreligion

              By your logic the world is overrun by evil people.

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      Because “DOGE” isn’t about efficiency, but rather enforcing far-right ideology, by making anything left of Mussolini ineffective.

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      It’s her kink for that to happen to other women, it doesn’t apply to her. They’re all like that.

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    Before I was banned, my highest up-voted post on Reddit was a clip of this woman babbling in tongues for God to intervene in the 2020 election.

    HAHA fucking found it! I challenge you to watch it and not laugh.

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      Because the “Heritage” foundation paid for it, and they’re a bunch of Xian Fundies. Project 2025 (which Trump knows absolutely nothing about, he says so himself) is their baby.

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      Dates back to Bush’s “Office of Faith-Based Initiatives”. Sounds like it gets hauled out again whenever it feels like support from the religious crowd might be a little soft.

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    If being a sub is her kink, she can do that. If she likes being a sub, why is she so bossy?