I don’t know. I’m on ml. Something about ‘tankies’? I dont bother thinking about those cliques and ppl being so clique-y, and nor should anyone else. immature behaviour tbh, but I haven’t received any teasing for being on ml so I think it’s a minority of people who really dislike lefties maybe?
Its not about all users on ml, but about the quite big (or very loud) group of ml users being tankies. This phenomenon is so wide spread, that in most cases when you see a tankie somewhere they are usually coming from ml.
And the people who fall for it will pretend they knew it was an illegitimate war all along, when the media narrative finally changes. And they won’t learn anything from this, and they’ll go along with the US narrative again next time.
Violating an agreement guaranteeing Ukraine’s borders? Totally fine. Providing support in accordance with that agreement? A step too far, that’s escalation!
Next tell me how evil nato forced putin to invade Ukraine to prevent nato expansion. And then how two new countries joining nato counts as preventing nato expansion.
Which is it? Should the Minsk agreements have been followed or not? Because every action you’re describing by the west is a violation of the agreements. Zelenskyy ran on neutrality, and respecting agreements made with Russia, then reversed course once elected, and now refuses to hold elections and risk the people electing a real neutral candidate.
The Budapest memorandum. You know, the entire reason Ukraine handed over their nukes? Minsk happened after Russia already violated that. Ukraine should’ve had an entire US arsenal the second Russian troops stepped foot in Ukraine.
And it’s well documented that Russian regulars were there, so don’t bother with the separatist stuff.
I don’t know. I’m on ml. Something about ‘tankies’? I dont bother thinking about those cliques and ppl being so clique-y, and nor should anyone else. immature behaviour tbh, but I haven’t received any teasing for being on ml so I think it’s a minority of people who really dislike lefties maybe?
Its not about all users on ml, but about the quite big (or very loud) group of ml users being tankies. This phenomenon is so wide spread, that in most cases when you see a tankie somewhere they are usually coming from ml.
Except now y’all broadly apply “tankie” to anyone who’s anti-war, so it’s lost all meaning.
If by war you mean the Ukraine war. And by anti you mean give Russia all it wants in order to end it. Yes, anyone that is anti-war is a tankie.
Yeah, that’s what I said. Y’all apply it to everybody who opposes escalation with nuclear superpowers, or supporting US proxy wars.
If you support those, then you’re not anti-war.
But ackchually did you know if you were against the Iraq invasion in 2000s you are pro-saddam? Checkmate, tankies
/s if it wasn’t obvious.
LoL. I remember.
And the people who fall for it will pretend they knew it was an illegitimate war all along, when the media narrative finally changes. And they won’t learn anything from this, and they’ll go along with the US narrative again next time.
Riiiijght! Just like how if you’re anti-Trump and voted for Kamala you’re pro Israel.
Right. Yeah… totally!
Who said that? I don’t deny any of that. Perhaps the party sbould listen to its base? Glad we agree on that.
But it’s not politicially useful to shame people who choose not to vote. That won’t work out.
But it IS politically useful to shame the people that DID vote.
ROFL!
I just wanted people to see what you’re about. Thanks for making it easy.
Violating an agreement guaranteeing Ukraine’s borders? Totally fine. Providing support in accordance with that agreement? A step too far, that’s escalation!
Next tell me how evil nato forced putin to invade Ukraine to prevent nato expansion. And then how two new countries joining nato counts as preventing nato expansion.
Which is it? Should the Minsk agreements have been followed or not? Because every action you’re describing by the west is a violation of the agreements. Zelenskyy ran on neutrality, and respecting agreements made with Russia, then reversed course once elected, and now refuses to hold elections and risk the people electing a real neutral candidate.
You have a complete misunderstanding of the basic facts in this conflict: https://savageminds.substack.com/p/save-ukraine-from-american-meddling
The Budapest memorandum. You know, the entire reason Ukraine handed over their nukes? Minsk happened after Russia already violated that. Ukraine should’ve had an entire US arsenal the second Russian troops stepped foot in Ukraine.
And it’s well documented that Russian regulars were there, so don’t bother with the separatist stuff.
Russia moved in after the US installed a far right puppet regime in a soft coup.
Its totally dissimilar to “blue mAgA” and “LiBtArD” being attributed to anyone that didn’t vote 3rd party though, right?