It can be both theater and something. To use an extreme point, the Guillotines were theatrical.
He’s thrown away one day of Senate procedure, and is not able to be stop until he sits or shuts up.
What would you have preferred the Dems have done to start? Expecting the Dems to be leftist is like expecting ducks to bark. We need to pat them on the head when they’ve done the bare minimum otherwise we won’t even get that.
I’m sorry the world works that’s way, I also wish it didn’t but that’s how it is.
Guillotines were invented as the most humane way to execute someone with the technology available at the time. Also during that time public executions aren’t uncommon, the French revolution didn’t introduce the theatrics they just used what was at the time the modern method of execution. The point of the guillotine wasn’t the theatrics it was the killing of your class enemies. Executions in general were held in public already cause it was really fucking easy to get away with crime back then so making public examples was the best they could do in their minds and the same idea of making an example extended to the French revolution. It was the poor being guillotined for petty crimes before and they were using the instruments of the oppressor that was already in place.
Nothing about what you’re saying is wrong, however if you don’t think there was also a layer of theatrics in the public executions of the aristocrats where they chopped their damn heads off… I have no clue what to say to you to convince you to otherwise lmfao
Theatrics btw are not bad. If you’re being purely pragmatic then people will never give a fuck about you, the problem is “Pure Theatrics” you also need substance.
Which is why I used the guillotine as an example, it had substance and it has theatrics.
Do you thinking when Mussolini’s body was publicly desecrated there wasn’t any theatrics or point to it? Do you think Sherman’s scorching the land to bring terror in the hearts of slave owners had no theatrics?
What would you have preferred the Dems have done to start
It would have been very cool if, going back to 2016, they hadn’t intentionally boosted Trump as part of a sociopathic plan to raise the likelihood of Hillary winning the general election (you can see how well that turned out), I think I would have definitely preferred that
Right now I would prefer if they were all thrown into a pit so that leaders who aren’t at BEST feckless and incompetent and AT WORST literally fascist collaborators could step in and actually offer real opposition
instead we’re getting dipshits jerking themselves raw over how RADICAL CIVILITY will defeat Trump (and people like you over it apparently, “aT lEaSt tHeY aRE dOiNg SoMeThInG!” give me a fucking break)
Look bro, if there’s a violent revolution to overthrow capitalism I’ll be there in the trenches fighting with you, but unless you’re willing to put your money where your mouth is and fire the first shot you’re just all talk.
You are a frog in a pot being boiled alive, except the frog has the sense to escape. You’re not going to vote the fascists out, your leaders are useless or collaborators, the consequences of that should be really fucking clear. But yeah, lol, I’m the idiot 🙄
I remember when I first became a radlib and was convinced I was more radically leftist than every communist in history. This should pass in time if they are around long enough
Invoking Lenin to justify any level of support to Cory fucking Booker is hilarious my dude lmao
People are calling you a liberal because of how aggressively you’ve reacted to the idea that this whole thing is performative brand polishing and nothing more. Sometimes we all get a little too excited for any hope out there but like this is straight up not it. The Dems have been running this playbook for decades with great results! For their donation numbers and effectively tricking just enough people into thinking there is any shred of hope within the moderate wing of the fascist party. Apparently that sometimes even works on people who are aware that the party itself is fascist which is a crazy testament to just how well it works
However what do people here think is going to happen, do you think we will defeat fascism by being on our ass bitching about the Dems not doing enough?
Why is this your conclusion about everyone here based purely off the fact that we aren’t falling for the typical performative dem resistance shit lol. Like you’re just assuming everything else and going full defense mode because we clown on Cory Booker? What?
Yes, an act can be both theater and make a material difference. This is not though, it is only theater and devoid of anything meaningful or material. He wouldn’t be doing it otherwise because he represents the same ruling class the republicans do, you goddamned fool.
Also get the fuck out of here with your “I’m more leftist than you!” bullshit while talking about how we have to give our explicit ruling class enemies a “pat on the head” for pretending they’re presenting any kind of opposition. Many of us here have been organizing and providing mutual aid for decades, and even if you’re not lying about the actual material work you’ve done (which I doubt), it doesn’t change the fact that your advocating for liberal, bourgeois politicians doing performative kayfabe undeniably makes you also a liberal with zero knowledge of theory or any understanding of what’s actually happening here.
It can be both theater and something. To use an extreme point, the Guillotines were theatrical.
He’s thrown away one day of Senate procedure, and is not able to be stop until he sits or shuts up.
What would you have preferred the Dems have done to start? Expecting the Dems to be leftist is like expecting ducks to bark. We need to pat them on the head when they’ve done the bare minimum otherwise we won’t even get that.
I’m sorry the world works that’s way, I also wish it didn’t but that’s how it is.
Guillotines were invented as the most humane way to execute someone with the technology available at the time. Also during that time public executions aren’t uncommon, the French revolution didn’t introduce the theatrics they just used what was at the time the modern method of execution. The point of the guillotine wasn’t the theatrics it was the killing of your class enemies. Executions in general were held in public already cause it was really fucking easy to get away with crime back then so making public examples was the best they could do in their minds and the same idea of making an example extended to the French revolution. It was the poor being guillotined for petty crimes before and they were using the instruments of the oppressor that was already in place.
Nothing about what you’re saying is wrong, however if you don’t think there was also a layer of theatrics in the public executions of the aristocrats where they chopped their damn heads off… I have no clue what to say to you to convince you to otherwise lmfao
Theatrics btw are not bad. If you’re being purely pragmatic then people will never give a fuck about you, the problem is “Pure Theatrics” you also need substance.
Which is why I used the guillotine as an example, it had substance and it has theatrics.
Do you thinking when Mussolini’s body was publicly desecrated there wasn’t any theatrics or point to it? Do you think Sherman’s scorching the land to bring terror in the hearts of slave owners had no theatrics?
Do you think a dude pissing in a bucket so he can keep rambling nonsense is even remotely similar?
You’re jumping all over the place bro.
Yes I do, it’s a smaller scale. He’s got people’s attention, the people are saying “do this more often” maybe more days will be disrupted.
Better than no days disrupted
I think you just have a piss fetish
It would have been very cool if, going back to 2016, they hadn’t intentionally boosted Trump as part of a sociopathic plan to raise the likelihood of Hillary winning the general election (you can see how well that turned out), I think I would have definitely preferred that
Right now I would prefer if they were all thrown into a pit so that leaders who aren’t at BEST feckless and incompetent and AT WORST literally fascist collaborators could step in and actually offer real opposition
instead we’re getting dipshits jerking themselves raw over how RADICAL CIVILITY will defeat Trump (and people like you
over it apparently, “aT lEaSt tHeY aRE dOiNg SoMeThInG!” give me a fucking break)
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eat me liberal
You are a frog in a pot being boiled alive, except the frog has the sense to escape. You’re not going to vote the fascists out, your leaders are useless or collaborators, the consequences of that should be really fucking clear. But yeah, lol, I’m the idiot 🙄
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the real marxists are the ones who clap like trained seals over liberals doing pointless bullshit #resist
I remember when I first became a radlib and was convinced I was more radically leftist than every communist in history. This should pass in time if they are around long enough
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Invoking Lenin to justify any level of support to Cory fucking Booker is hilarious my dude lmao
People are calling you a liberal because of how aggressively you’ve reacted to the idea that this whole thing is performative brand polishing and nothing more. Sometimes we all get a little too excited for any hope out there but like this is straight up not it. The Dems have been running this playbook for decades with great results! For their donation numbers and effectively tricking just enough people into thinking there is any shred of hope within the moderate wing of the fascist party. Apparently that sometimes even works on people who are aware that the party itself is fascist which is a crazy testament to just how well it works
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Why is this your conclusion about everyone here based purely off the fact that we aren’t falling for the typical performative dem resistance shit lol. Like you’re just assuming everything else and going full defense mode because we clown on Cory Booker? What?
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Yes, an act can be both theater and make a material difference. This is not though, it is only theater and devoid of anything meaningful or material. He wouldn’t be doing it otherwise because he represents the same ruling class the republicans do, you goddamned fool.
Also get the fuck out of here with your “I’m more leftist than you!” bullshit while talking about how we have to give our explicit ruling class enemies a “pat on the head” for pretending they’re presenting any kind of opposition. Many of us here have been organizing and providing mutual aid for decades, and even if you’re not lying about the actual material work you’ve done (which I doubt), it doesn’t change the fact that your advocating for liberal, bourgeois politicians doing performative kayfabe undeniably makes you also a liberal with zero knowledge of theory or any understanding of what’s actually happening here.
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Well, since you mentioned guillotines…