Summary

Elon Musk blamed trans people for recent Tesla attacks after his daughter, Vivian Jenna Wilson, called him a “pathetic man-child.”

Musk shared false data on trans violence and claimed hormone therapy causes volatility. He linked trans identity to attacks on Tesla cars and dealerships, citing unverified reports of trans suspects.

Musk’s comments followed Wilson’s interview where she condemned his far-right shift and disavowed responsibility for his views.

Critics accused Musk of scapegoating trans people amid Tesla’s financial decline and political controversies.

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    17 hours ago

    That’s not fair, I’m sure some there are some trans people burning the cars too.

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    Now that the Trump administration is treating Tesla vandalism as domestic terrorism, Musk has connected Trans people to domestic terrorism.

    Whether or not he meant to (I don’t know if his Ketamine and amphetamine addled brain even comprehends cause and effect), this is a stated goal of Project 2025: criminalizing Trans people.

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      An argument I read recently is that the Nazi plan for gay and trans people wasn’t “genocide” per se. It was a mental health issue or deficiency to be cured. More a project of conversion therapy. In effect, it was wanton slaughter and being a “pink triangle” prisoner was about as bad as you could get, but Himmler had ideas like having gay men fuck prostitutes in the camps (women promised a better life than Ravensbrück - they’d end up on the trains to Auschwitz after). Like you could supposedly be cured, so the goal would be to fix you before giving up and eliminating you, at least in theory.

      They’ll have trans people declared mentally ill for being trans and institutionalized. The institutionalization won’t have the goal of killing us, but the people put in charge of caring for us will exploit their power. We will be sexually abused, chemically castrated, and physically abused. This will happen under the appearance of mental health treatment, so it will be invisible.

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        My understanding was that queerness was a Jewish plot for control. They treated it like a disease that could infect the entire population if left unchecked.

        Sort of like the “woke mind virus”.

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          Their understanding was flexible, and changed especially at the end when they started losing the war. Josef Kohout, author of the men with the pink triangle got picked up after a love affair with the son of a fairly high up member of the party. That man got a light treatment, while Kohout was sent to the camps - it was possible to understand homosexual desire as “a failing of youth.” Near the end of the war, one could be liberated by agreeing to be castrated and sent out to the front.

          It’s like alt right movements today - the ideology is flexible. It’s a worship of masculine power above all.

          Think about the weird prevalence of Nazi femboys (thinking about Nick Fuentes boyfriend….) Being homosexual is only wrong if it’s done in a way that’s “queer.” Getting your dick sucked by some f€ggot on Grindr isn’t “gay” because the power structure has not been violated. Kohout is pretty pointed in his account when he talks about how the only difference between the kapos and officers that desired him and himself was that he wanted to love his partner. That’s gay shit - that’s the problem. Not wanting to marry a woman and pump out white babies, while fooling around with lower social status men on the side.

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        19 hours ago

        They’re trying to make not liking Trump a mental illness in one state so far, they’re absolutely going to make being Trans a mental illness.

        Although with Musk connecting being Trans with attacking Teslas, and the Trump administration treating attacking Teslas as domestic terrorism, I could absolutely foresee Trans people eventually being sent to CECOT and never leaving.

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        Yeah that’s why I’m not telling my grandma my actual reason I’m quitting my job and moving to a blue state. Fortunately it’s something everyone kinda expected me to eventually do.

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    trans people’s fault that cis people are burning Tesla cars

    Elonia is trying to tell us something.

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    If Tesla cars turn people into gender dysphoria, are they actually trans formers?

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    One of the Umberto Eco’s 14 signs of fascism: Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”

    The other sigs

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    I really don’t want to hold tesla drivers responsible for that degenerate. Having said that the tesla driver who tried to go around me yesterday as the lane was closing and nearly got me involved in a collision with a oncoming cement truck can fuck right off. I’m sure there are many more just like them.

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      I don’t own a car, but if I had a tesla, I’d immediatly sell it after the nazi salute happened. Like, I wouldn’t want to be mistaken for some nazi.

      (Also I can’t trust a car if the manufacturer’s executives are deranged lunatics. Like… its not a Nike branding on shoes that you can just cover up and call it a day, the manufacturer can literally shut down your car for holding dissenting views.)

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    Wonder how much better off the country would be if Elon and his daughter could reconcile.

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      It would be 100% of Musk suddenly making a genuine effort to be a good person. It’s not on his daughter’s shoulders so it’s not like there are “two good people who just need to communicate”. If he actually worried about being a good person then of course the country would be better off because d’uh.

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      He has always been a sociopathic, narcistic asshole. His sociopathy just latched onto the transgender thing.

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        Now would be a good time to find a way to heal a sociopathic, narcistic asshole.

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    Elon.

    We’re pissed at you because you are dismantling the programs that we relied on and loved.

    We’re pissed because you’re disenfranchising millions of people.

    We’re pissed at you because our family and friends are being fired, bullied, beaten, and killed thanks to your hateful rhetoric.

    We’re pissed at you because you’re meddling with foreign politics and fanning the flames of racism, bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, and transphobia at home and abroad.

    We’re pissed at you because we all know Trans people are the gender they say there are.

    We’re pissed at you because there are definitely more than 2 genders, and no presidential decree can erase facts.

    We’re pissed at you because that was unequivocally a Nazi salute in a nation that, despite it’s Fascist history, killed more Nazis than most, and there’s more people in America than you think who will do it again.

    We’re pissed because you are not our king Elon, Peter Thiel is not our king, JD Vance is not our king, The Heritage Foundation are not our lords, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Sundar Pichai, Sachya Nadella are not our fucking lords.

    And Trump is NOT our king.

    The world is burning Teslas as a reminder to you. We will not be ruled. Not by you. Not by anyone.

    So fuck off with this blaming the Trans people for it, you sad excuse for a sack of shit.

    Get the fuck out of the White House Elon.

    Take your toys, your son you’re definitely not using as a human shield since Luigi reminded you guys of your mortality, and just…go fucking home and shut the fuck up forever.

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      Even that has a more logical throughline.

      It’s like getting rained on and then saying the food stamp program caused the weatherman to form a rain cloud over your head.