Betterbird. Simply better.
www.betterbird.eu
Betterbird. Simply better. A soft fork of Mozilla Thunderbird

Had never heard of this before today. Anyone tried it?

EDIT: “Being a fork of Mozilla Thunderbird, the software collects some data about the user, less than the original Mozilla Thunderbird, as outlined in Thunderbird’s privacy statement. No data is submitted to Betterbird, some data may be submitted to Mozilla. No telemetry and no crash reports are submitted, however, add-on updates and blocklists are downloaded from Mozilla sites. Betterbird offers a product Start Page which processes access data as described above.”

  • Oxidize@lemmy.mlEnglish
    3·
    43 minutes ago

    What you’re looking for is Dove:

    Dove is a suite of configurations & advanced modifications for Mozilla Thunderbird, designed to put the user first - with a focus on privacy, security, freedom, & usability.

    https://codeberg.org/celenity/Dove

  • kixik@lemmy.ml
    25·
    53 minutes ago

    Librewolf is a privacy oriented fork of Firefox, it grabs some setting from arkenfox. Betterbird is not a privacy oriented fork of Thunderbird as far as I remember. When I tried it the only thing I was attracted to was its tray support, but as I use non DE compositors, so far wayfire, labwc and sway (tabbed layout), and as there’s currently a Firefox bug, I didn’t see any reason to keep trying it, and now on sway with tabbed layout I see no reason for a tray any ways…

  • A_norny_mousse@lemm.eeEnglish
    17·
    21 hours ago

    Interesting.

    Did you read their website/faq? It very clearly tells me that Betterbird has a very different focus than LibreWolf. It’s not about Privacy, it’s about fixing bugs.

    • sic_semper_tyrannisEnglish
      3·
      13 hours ago

      How did you get it working? I am using the latest Mint with Cinnamon, Betterbird flatpak with Birdtray flatpak. I setup the directory for my two email inboxes and it displays the joint counter on BT icon. However whenever I open BT it opens BB and gives an error and keeps BB open over anything else.

      • Despotic Machine@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        2·
        12 hours ago

        birdtray-config.json

        Edit the following strings:

        "advanced/tbcmdline": [
        "/usr/bin/flatpak-spawn",
        "--host",
        "flatpak",
        "run",
        "--branch=stable",
        "--arch=x86_64",
        "--command=betterbird",
        "--file-forwarding",
        "eu.betterbird.Betterbird",
        "@@u",
        "%u",
        "@@"
    ],
    "advanced/tbprocessname": "betterbird",
    "advanced/tbwindowmatch": "Betterbird",

        In Birdtray under Advanced - Thunderbird command line - call Betterbird as follows:

        /usr/bin/flatpak-spawn --host flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 --command=betterbird --file-forwarding eu.betterbird.Betterbird @@u %u @@

    • Otter@lemmy.caEnglish
      4·
      19 hours ago

      I was looking into k-9 mail and it seemed decent

      What stuff did you want to have in a mobile app?

      • something_random_tho@lemmy.world
        6·
        17 hours ago

        K-9 mail is literally Thunderbird. It’s been rebranded and taken over by Mozilla. They’re keeping the k-9 branding as its own (otherwise identical) app as a nostalgia token for the people that have used it for a long time.

      • zecg@lemmy.world
        101·
        22 hours ago

        What do you mean “work with”, it’s a different-ass client? Do you mean if it’s possible to import settings?

      • Otter@lemmy.caEnglish
        4·
        21 hours ago

        The email servers themselves are separate (ex. Gmail, your school email server, work email server, etc.).

        Thunderbird / K9 are clients that let you access the email on your device

        So they should all be compatible with each other

    • Preston Maness ☭@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      1·
      8 minutes ago

      The Thunderbird team spent a good chunk of time a few days ago replying everywhere they were mentioned on Mastodon, insisting that the problems did not apply to them:

      The Firefox Terms of Use do not apply to Thunderbird or any other products we develop (e.g. Appointment, K-9 Mail)

      You can check out their replies here: https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird/with_replies. Lots of the same, or similar, verbiage across replies.

    • rtxn@lemmy.world
      151·
      21 hours ago

      There are no “problems” with Firefox. The problems are with Mozilla and how they operate Firefox, so they could easily start affecting Thunderbird too.

  • RobotZap10000@feddit.nlEnglish
    33·
    8 hours ago

    I tried to use LibreWolf yesterday. The Flatpak version wasn’t supported by KeePassXC, so that was a pass for me. The Fedora version did work with it, but it was also freezing my system and causing graphical glitches that were so terrible, I thought my hardware died. There were coloured blocks as well as weird pixelated warping. It’s probably because I have Wayland, and I noticed that the Fedora version ran under X. I would have submitted a bug report, but I didn’t even know where to start. Maybe I’ll do that eventually.

    E: I have narrowed this down with journalctl to be an issue with amdgpu. This happenes on Firefox as well, but not other applications somehow. It’s something to do with a gfxhub page fault. I’ll have to see whether an older kernel version might help.