The left knew the science, and shouted it all the time. Just like they knew all the time that the president’s ability to affect inflation was limited too, and shouted that all the time as well to no avail. When the right doesn’t listen to logic, they get made fun of with the bare facts.
There are other, less tortured interpretations that you have QUITE ODDLY glided past. Such bad faith comments only serve to soothe your own emotional needs.
What corporation? I thought we were talking about a government agency tasked with the safeguarding of American food & agriculture. You don’t randomly “cull” departments that are in the middle of handling a national emergency.
Corporations do this to maximize profit. The US government is supposed to maximize helping citizens, it’s what we pay for. The U.S. government is essentially a non profit.
For the US government, profit-motivated strategy is inappropriate.
We need the people they fired to be doing their job even when there isn’t a pandemic. Having these people in staff is exact the same as hiring firefighters and cops, they’re for responding to emergencies. And just like firefighters and cops, they do investigation, training and research when there isn’t an emergency.
These people should not have been culled. Doing so when there isn’t an imminent pandemic is stupid enough, but sacking them when there’s already several outbreaks in progress is monumentally stupid. IIts like fireing the firefighters as they’re driving to the fire. It’s the exact kind of move I’d expect a short term thinker who has never dealt with personal consequences to act. It’s an incredibly idiotic thing to do.
people with decades of experience responding to communicable illnesses have been getting fired without cause or driven out of government just for some conservative publicity stunt precisely when they’re needed (which it turns out, is actually all the time). even when no diseases are breaking out, they are developing plans and strategies for the next event. we need these experts.
even corporations wouldn’t be stupid enough to fire people working on H5 response at the onset of a possible pandemic. If you end up removing people in critical roles then you delay response to a situation where weeks matter.
Most? By what metric, hopefully not your wishful thinking and only focusing on articles that support your views. I would really like to see your science sources on this. And by sources I don’t mean science articles that discuss H5 is not a near term risk (for every such article I can easily find you one that says it is), I mean some sort of literature review that shows MOST experts in the field are not worried. I am educated enough to know the dynamics is complex and the situation is at best unpredictable. Common sense worth a grain of sand requires we should be on alert mode until the animal endemic is over, not firing possibly essential workers because it looks cool when you do it wielding a chainsaw. If we are just gonna trade articles though I will start:
"On January 6, the Louisiana Department of Health announced that a patient hospitalized last month for H5N1 avian influenza had died, becoming the first U.S. death from the virus. To make matters worse, samples taken from the individual suggest that the virus mutated within the patient after infection—meaning it had begun to adapt to infect humans better—raising new questions about H5N1’s pandemic potential. "
My gut feeling is that you are a troll but nevertheless your questions help inform other people who are on the fence about such stuff so thanks.
If they haven’t learned from and can’t apply the science from the last pandemic then they aren’t doing their job.
Do you think that they are being fired based on merit?
we should be applying the lessons from covid19
Who do you think brings the relevant experience and science into practice for pandemic response? People who were fired.
Less an intentional troll than someone with an insecure worldview that needs to bullwark it with talking points received from the conservative hivemind and other forms of self-deception.
most experts in the field are not significantly concerned about a pandemic in the near term
This, but the opposite. This whole thread has been you saying stupid things for your own emotional needs. You know, if this is just your defense mechanisms speaking, you’d get just as much out of it if after composing your comment, you clicked “Cancel”.
well, that they used eggs as a campaign pitch during such a time only proves they care next to zero about the promises they make and the people they make these promises to. they just hand it out like colorful fliers. whatever sells baby.
moving goal posts I see. First it was “well yes they promised to drop the prices but there is bird flu so it is very difficult” now you are saying “it is okay that they lie because they are politicians”. You still have the choice to not defend their particular lies by trying to find reasonable explanations for them, that is on you. Of course if you are an aspiring politician that is another matter.
Yea but then you are missing the point that people are not criticising their inability to fulfill their promise but making a clearly unfulfillable promise their main campaign slogan. please lets not cycle back to the politicians argument, that does not make it immune to criticism.
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They made it a campaign issue.
It’s perfectly fair to criticize their unfulfillable promises.
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Fair point on the punching down.
Zombie essentially responded to this post earlier if you had thoughts there?
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The left knew the science, and shouted it all the time. Just like they knew all the time that the president’s ability to affect inflation was limited too, and shouted that all the time as well to no avail. When the right doesn’t listen to logic, they get made fun of with the bare facts.
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Holy shit that’s funny.
I thought you were being serious at first. 10/10!
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There are other, less tortured interpretations that you have QUITE ODDLY glided past. Such bad faith comments only serve to soothe your own emotional needs.
What a classy way to call someone a hysterical fool. Good on you!
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U just hadn’t got to then yet
Yes. Conservatives only learn when something impacts them directly.
Jajajajajajaja laughs in Spanish
If you were educated you wouldn’t have that shitty ass grammar.
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Projection at its core.
“I love the poorly educated.” - Donald Trump
The USDA fired staffers working on bird flu. Now it’s trying to reverse course
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What corporation? I thought we were talking about a government agency tasked with the safeguarding of American food & agriculture. You don’t randomly “cull” departments that are in the middle of handling a national emergency.
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Corporations do this to maximize profit. The US government is supposed to maximize helping citizens, it’s what we pay for. The U.S. government is essentially a non profit.
For the US government, profit-motivated strategy is inappropriate.
We need the people they fired to be doing their job even when there isn’t a pandemic. Having these people in staff is exact the same as hiring firefighters and cops, they’re for responding to emergencies. And just like firefighters and cops, they do investigation, training and research when there isn’t an emergency.
These people should not have been culled. Doing so when there isn’t an imminent pandemic is stupid enough, but sacking them when there’s already several outbreaks in progress is monumentally stupid. IIts like fireing the firefighters as they’re driving to the fire. It’s the exact kind of move I’d expect a short term thinker who has never dealt with personal consequences to act. It’s an incredibly idiotic thing to do.
thank you! you get it.
people with decades of experience responding to communicable illnesses have been getting fired without cause or driven out of government just for some conservative publicity stunt precisely when they’re needed (which it turns out, is actually all the time). even when no diseases are breaking out, they are developing plans and strategies for the next event. we need these experts.
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You responded to one word of the parent comment, and ignored the rest.
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I’ll take “Things Ignorant People Say” for $500, Alex.
Corporate guru over here
lol “we meant to do that”
even corporations wouldn’t be stupid enough to fire people working on H5 response at the onset of a possible pandemic. If you end up removing people in critical roles then you delay response to a situation where weeks matter.
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Most? By what metric, hopefully not your wishful thinking and only focusing on articles that support your views. I would really like to see your science sources on this. And by sources I don’t mean science articles that discuss H5 is not a near term risk (for every such article I can easily find you one that says it is), I mean some sort of literature review that shows MOST experts in the field are not worried. I am educated enough to know the dynamics is complex and the situation is at best unpredictable. Common sense worth a grain of sand requires we should be on alert mode until the animal endemic is over, not firing possibly essential workers because it looks cool when you do it wielding a chainsaw. If we are just gonna trade articles though I will start:
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/bird-flu-is-raising-red-flags-among-health-officials
"On January 6, the Louisiana Department of Health announced that a patient hospitalized last month for H5N1 avian influenza had died, becoming the first U.S. death from the virus. To make matters worse, samples taken from the individual suggest that the virus mutated within the patient after infection—meaning it had begun to adapt to infect humans better—raising new questions about H5N1’s pandemic potential. "
My gut feeling is that you are a troll but nevertheless your questions help inform other people who are on the fence about such stuff so thanks.
Do you think that they are being fired based on merit?
Who do you think brings the relevant experience and science into practice for pandemic response? People who were fired.
Less an intentional troll than someone with an insecure worldview that needs to bullwark it with talking points received from the conservative hivemind and other forms of self-deception.
This, but the opposite. This whole thread has been you saying stupid things for your own emotional needs. You know, if this is just your defense mechanisms speaking, you’d get just as much out of it if after composing your comment, you clicked “Cancel”.
THE GOVERNMENT ISN’T A FUCKING CORPORATION AND SHOULDN’T BE RUN LIKE ONE.
well, that they used eggs as a campaign pitch during such a time only proves they care next to zero about the promises they make and the people they make these promises to. they just hand it out like colorful fliers. whatever sells baby.
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moving goal posts I see. First it was “well yes they promised to drop the prices but there is bird flu so it is very difficult” now you are saying “it is okay that they lie because they are politicians”. You still have the choice to not defend their particular lies by trying to find reasonable explanations for them, that is on you. Of course if you are an aspiring politician that is another matter.
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So you are saying that their policies are generally wrong?
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Yea but then you are missing the point that people are not criticising their inability to fulfill their promise but making a clearly unfulfillable promise their main campaign slogan. please lets not cycle back to the politicians argument, that does not make it immune to criticism.
Promises made. Promises broken. Excuses made by gutter scum.
Did you forget the s or are you saying that with a straight face?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was told by Donald Trump, serial liar, that the cost of living would go down on Day 1 of his presidency.
That fuckwit isn’t living up to his promises. Promises made. Promises broken.