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    There are no DOGE cuts. It’s just some bullshit that Trump and Elon pulled out of their ass. There is no way to cut $2 trillion from the budget by a stroke of the President’s pen. And even if there was, they would have no intention of actually doing so. Sick of the gullible media taking Trump at his word. Just like his last term, there will be no spending cuts, just tax cuts for the rich and massive deficits.

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      Yeah I agree, he just sprouts some shit and then doesn’t do anything. Just like his first term.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    Of course. Those cuts are, largely, going to fall on welfare and welfare recipients, because they’re not cutting entitlements and they’re not cutting the military.

    It’s the impoverished southern states that utilize welfare the most. (And they never thank California or New York.)

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      And in those southern states, those that use those welfare services are most at risk and also have their vote suppressed the most. Hourly workers that rely on WIC, Headstart and medicaid can’t take a day off work to be sick let alone vote. And most economically suppressed districts have 4-6 hour wait times.

      It’s harder than ever for working Americans to vote and it’s the worst it’s ever been last election. These people couldn’t even vote against their interests if they wanted to.

      https://www.splcenter.org/resources/guides/fight-vote-overcoming-voter-suppression-south/

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    A lot of them will be fine with this as long as it hits their black neighbours harder than them. They’re poorer, but still have their white pride, and don’t have to worry about their place in the hierarchy of races being eroded away.

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    There are still Brexit supporters. As an example.

    There is no bottom.

    They will never change their minds because their decisions aren’t based on facts or logic.

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    Lots of maga people are going to find out quickly that a major function of government jobs and social welfare programs are to redistribute wealth from the rich cities to the country.

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        Those demonrats really messed things up this time! Now I don’t even get muh benefits! This is all Bidens fault! /s

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        I think an often overlooked part of the MAGA demographic is that it’s comprised of two large groups: often rural, working class, conservative voters who vote on emotional or single issue areas like abortion, 2nd amendment, or military support and wealthy upper class business owners who benefit from reduced economic and environmental regulation. It seems Republicans in power always seem to pass legislation that benefits the later while screwing over the former, and yet they keep voting for Republicans anyway.

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            It’s not even just the poorly educated out here. A lot of intelligent conservatives that are blinded by religion. You can be smart and a moron at the same time.

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              Blinded by hate. Religion is just used an excuse, even though the hate is contradicting it.

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                I’d disagree there. Any religion that claims to have a monopoly on capital-T Truth inherently creates ingroups and outgroups. It “others” the outgroups and makes it acceptable (within the ingroups) to dehumanize them.

                Even churches than preach love and acceptance inherently look down outsiders and sinners as “less than.”

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          The key is “emotional” they are essentially telling them that all their ills are due to immigrants, gays, atheists, trans, minorities and so on

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      They dont understand their daily life is subsidized by the federal government, and that cutting those programs means their share of the costs go up.

      The majority of red states aren’t self sustainable.

      If blue states said fuck it and stopped sending the Fed money, it would go broke along with every red state except Texas I think. But they need federal funding every year for climate disasters

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        They won’t understand after, either, as they’ll be told that Democrats are somehow keeping them from getting their due. And for some reason they’ll believe it.

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    Can we call it DGE since ‘of’ isn’t normally included in acronyms, for example DMV and not DOMV

  • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.worldOP
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    “Here’s the rub: no one in Washington gives a damn,” said Steele. “Not on Capitol Hill, not on K Street, because they’re all trying to figure out how they get a piece of it or get protected…So, we’re all bought in here onto this. The American people signed on the dotted line. Do more of this. And they think that they’re going to benefit.”

    He explained that $2 trillion in cuts would have to impact the MAGA world. One of Trump’s first actions was to roll back President Joe Biden’s 2022 executive order lowering prescription drug prices for those in Medicare and Medicaid.

    “They’re not telling you where it’s coming from. And you know who’s going to ultimately pay for it? All the MAGA in places like Alabama and Mississippi, who already rely on a lot of federal dollars to make their ends meet in those states,” said Steele. “It’s not going to hurt California. It’s not going to hurt New York. They contribute massive amounts of dollars and get back very few federal dollars. Where this comes home to roost is in the very center of MAGA land, and they seem to be okay with that. So cut away, my friend, and just let the squealing begin.”

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      No shit. For all their railing against taxes and entitlements, Red states overwhelmingly benefit from them while Blue states largely fund them. 4 of the top 5 most dependent states are Red (Alaska, West Virginia, Mississippi, and Montana). And 4 of the top 5 least dependent states are Blue (Minnesota, New Jersey, Delaware, and Illinois). They are shooting themselves in the foot, as always.

      Source: https://smartasset.com/data-studies/states-most-dependent-federal-government-2023

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        Interesting link and based on it every single state but New Mexico is paying in more than they are getting out, meaning that 49 of the 50 are carrying their own water. What the high contribution states like Minnesota are really paying for is all of the other stuff that the Federal Government does.

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          There are always administrative costs that drain a portion of the revenue. It’s unavoidable. However, the losses to administrative costs would be significantly higher for each state were they to replace them with state-run alternatives. Particularly in those states where the services are in highest demand. Right now, West Virginia only gets back a dollar for every $1.04 spent, yes. That may seem like it would be in their interest to omit themselves from federal taxes and services. But then they would either have to replace those services themselves or leave their citizens without. Were they to replace the federal services themselves, that $1.04 would almost certainly be higher, potentially multiple times higher. And were they to leave their citizens without, people leave, turn to crime or die.

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      If California could somehow give me option to redirect my federal tax to the state I would gladly do it.

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    Let’s not act like they will learn from this. They did not in the past and they won’t in the coming clusterfuck.

    Stop acting like we are dealing with adults.

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      they didn’t get hit nearly as hard as they are going to this time around. You might still be correct, some will literally suck his dick with their dying breath, but some will also get a new drug bill and freak du’fuq out

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    I think one of the biggest fallacies is that some places are cheaper or more expensive to live. Cost of living is only based on the opportunities available to the average person. That logic is too hard for most MAGA nuts to crack

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      There are some other factors besides jobs that make places more attractive. Cal is extremely expensive not just cause of high-paying jobs (and lack of housing supply), but also weather, geography, convenience etc

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      And that friction is all set to be directed squarely at the most vulnerable populations. It doesn’t matter that part of this is a loop, so long as there’s brown and gay folks to blame.

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      Sorry, we were already on 11, you’re going to have to break those nobs if you want to go higher.

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    They won’t notice/care/learn. They’ll probably blame Biden/democrats for anything bad that happens.

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    ‘you thought they’d just take the billions and billions of dollars from new york, chicago, and california?’

    yes.

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      Ok I can’t determine what you misspelled. It was probably insulin, but then I thought ‘wait no- he could have meant IV-Saline’ then it dawned on me you could have meant a play on words like “insane saline” and it doesn’t really matter because insulin and saline are both lifesaving and needlessly expensive compared to their base components and production costs.