(The Center Square) – The list of where possessing a firearm is illegal, even with a concealed pistol license, could soon expand as lawmakers considered a bill Tuesday to ban
Oregon specifically? I don’t have any bit nationally it will absolutely without question get worse. Right now concealed carry is neigh impossible for anyone in NYC or NJ. If you aren’t LEO you will not have one right now, but the expectation is that will change and as we get more untrained and less ideal people carrying we should see an increase in crimes committed by people with cc permits.
My warning is more about how I wouldn’t rely on old data anymore because the pool of people who can carry concealed has massively increased.
LEO total crime rate is only half that of general public, and five times that of concealed carriers. For certain acts (domestic violence) they are twice as likely to commit violent crime as the general public.
Opening up NYCs and NJs concealed carry from “LEO-Only” to “Shall Issue” (Meaning: “Background checked members of the general public”) would improve the rates among concealed carriers in general.
No, it wouldn’t because aside from the police it’s pretty much the governor and some mayors. You will be seeing a bunch of people getting guns who previously would have been denied them. I promise you the cc permit carrier rate of crime will substantially increase as more carry concealed.
42 states have Shall Issue licensing. Only 8 states have “May Issue” laws, where the state exercises arbitrary discretion in licensing.
In each and every one of those states, the violent crime rate of licensed carriers is substantially lower than that of the general public. In each and every one of those states, cops have a higher crime rate than carriers.
So no, it’s not just “the governor and some mayors”. It’s the entire country.
For your point to be rational, non-felon laypersons in New York and New Jersey would have to be substantially more criminal than carriers in 42 states.
Your “promises” have no logical basis. Guns simply do not cause crime.
Oregon specifically? I don’t have any bit nationally it will absolutely without question get worse. Right now concealed carry is neigh impossible for anyone in NYC or NJ. If you aren’t LEO you will not have one right now, but the expectation is that will change and as we get more untrained and less ideal people carrying we should see an increase in crimes committed by people with cc permits.
My warning is more about how I wouldn’t rely on old data anymore because the pool of people who can carry concealed has massively increased.
LEO total crime rate is only half that of general public, and five times that of concealed carriers. For certain acts (domestic violence) they are twice as likely to commit violent crime as the general public.
Opening up NYCs and NJs concealed carry from “LEO-Only” to “Shall Issue” (Meaning: “Background checked members of the general public”) would improve the rates among concealed carriers in general.
No, it wouldn’t because aside from the police it’s pretty much the governor and some mayors. You will be seeing a bunch of people getting guns who previously would have been denied them. I promise you the cc permit carrier rate of crime will substantially increase as more carry concealed.
42 states have Shall Issue licensing. Only 8 states have “May Issue” laws, where the state exercises arbitrary discretion in licensing.
In each and every one of those states, the violent crime rate of licensed carriers is substantially lower than that of the general public. In each and every one of those states, cops have a higher crime rate than carriers.
So no, it’s not just “the governor and some mayors”. It’s the entire country.
For your point to be rational, non-felon laypersons in New York and New Jersey would have to be substantially more criminal than carriers in 42 states.
Your “promises” have no logical basis. Guns simply do not cause crime.