Summary

Key leaders of the “Abandon Harris” movement, which encouraged voters to oppose Kamala Harris due to U.S. support for Israel during the Gaza war, are now expressing unease about Trump’s incoming administration.

Many in the movement, including prominent Muslim leaders, voted for Trump hoping he would bring peace to the Middle East.

However, concerns are growing over his Cabinet picks, such as Mike Huckabee and Tulsi Gabbard, which some see as troubling for Muslim communities.

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Kamala was in a weird place as well.

    Normally it’s easy for people to hold their noses for an incumbent. But if Kamala won. Shed run again in 2028.

    Which would mean from 2012 to 2032, there wouldn’t have been a fair Dem primary.

    20 fucking years…

    Party leaders don’t understand that when you take primaries away, it hurts general turnout. Because regardless of who wins, the primary is the time for the eventual candidate to get their finger on the pulse and see what voters want.

    Which is reliably that the Dem candidate moves left.

    Without a primary they move right and turnout goes down.

    We have literally decades of data that shows this, but it’s not what the donors want and the present DNC wants donations more than votes.

    Hopefully Winkler gets chair in a few months and that changes.

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      The DNC would rather have Trump as POTUS than Sanders or AOC.

      With Trump, the bribe money keeps flowing to both party machines, They are both paid to keep this sociopath owned economy safe from the people.

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        The DNC would rather have Trump as POTUS than Sanders or AOC.

        Always have…

        Which is the problem, and we have zero control over what the DNC does, literally the only leverage is not voting for them, which obviously is a huge risk with potentially disastrous results.

        Which is why now is the time to pressure the DNC and make noise.

        If Ben Winkler wins DNC chair because Kamala lost, it might actually be a net positive.

        If Kamala had won, we’d be stuck with Jamie Harrison again. A guy with little political experience whose only notable accomplishment was being “the only other option” to Lindsey Graham and raising an insane amount of money on that fact alone then losing the election.

        I don’t know why people are surprised with the 2024 result of they had any clue who was running the DNC…

        Raising money and losing elections is all Jaimie knows. And that’s what the DNC did under his leadership

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          Which is why now is the time to pressure the DNC and make noise.

          How would one pressure the DNC or make a noise they’re able to hear? And will it involve putting clamps on sensitive body parts and 150dB train horns?

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      Some More News did a good summary of how the Democrats win when they have a primary - and move to the left - but lose when they don’t.

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      Realistically they weren’t gonna hold a fair primary anyway. If they held one we would’ve gotten candidate Shapiro, who would have been stomped into dust by Trump.

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        In large part because Jaimie Harrison was the DNC chair.

        There’s an upcoming vote for chair, and there’s some standouts and one crazy with no chance.

        But from what I know about them (not everything) we’re almost guaranteed a good chair with a very good chance of getting an amazing one.

        I’m no fan of the DNC, but there’s a real chance to turn everything around and it’s barely a month away

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          Here’s hoping, though remember the people who voted for Harrison are still the ones voting. I remember we did get Howard Dean after his campaign, so hopefully there’s a similar thing that happens.

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            Jaimie got it because Biden appointed him…

            He was the only option for DNC members to vote for, it’s a rubber stamp process when a Dem wins the presidential.

            The only time they really vote is when a Dem president doesn’t win, or the chair resigns early (I think).