• mvirts@lemmy.world
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    Oh no please don’t send highly trained members of our military home where they can protect and train their fellow Americans!

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    How many times in our history are Americans going to get duped into hating people they never even interact with and know nothing about?

    None of these people know trans people. These morons have just been conditioned to hate them regardless of not even knowing them. It’s pathetic. They’ve never been hurt, or even inconvenienced by a trans person. Bigot fucks.

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    Are there actually 15K trans soldiers in the army, or is this just another number that he pulled out of his ass?

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      Transgender people are significantly more likely to serve in the US military than the general US population.[178][179] According to 2014 estimates from the Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity Law and Public Policy, despite the ban on military service, about 21.4% of the total transgender population in the US is estimated to have served in the military. In May 2014, an estimated 15,500 transgender individuals served on active duty or in the Guard or Reserve forces.[22] Wikipedia

      So it’s a real number he just thinks military=army like the fake loser he is.

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        Apparently I vastly underestimated how many people are in the US military in general.

        Transgender people are significantly more likely to serve in the US military than the general US population

        That also surprises me.

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          So, a hypothetical.

          Youre 18, you have no prospects, your body feels violently wrong, you have considered suicide as a solution, and you need to get the hell out of the violent christofascist small town youre from, with zero resources and a family that has said they think you should be hunted in the street.

          What do you do?

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          Don’t folks get gender affirming / plastic surgery for free or something? I think I heard it was covered because it lets military surgeons get practice for when they go work for private sector after their bit

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      I mean outside of America we are still going to all let this happen. We are all marching straight into WW3 like the “this is fine” meme.

      Should we survive as a species I look forward to 50 years from now where America adopts strong anti-facism laws like Germany has.

      Question is, who is the good guy in this new world we are entering?

      FWIW as a Canadian we are so fucked. America is going to come knocking for our resources soon and we won’t be able to say no.

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        So. I don’t want to be a dick about this and ask a question you can’t hive a good answer to publically. I don’t necessarily want a public answer here, but.

        What are you doing about it? You’re pretty much an Austrian in 1937. Maaaaybe a pole. What do you do?

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    My immediate thought is that Klinger will be happy.

    Trump’s legacy will be long term damage to national security, rampant racism and discrimination, and widespread corruption.

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      I was once near to (but did not interact with) Jamie Farr maybe 10 years ago. It’s really hard to see him and not picture him in a dress.

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      Only if the base assumption is that they’re all gay, and they only get kicked out if they tell us they’re straight, otherwise we aren’t asking.

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    It would be a good move for Biden to offer them honorable discharges now… it’ll be better than what they’ll get if they wait.

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      He won’t because he doesn’t care.

      Indeed, I’m surprised he doesn’t do it first to show the “moderate republicans” that he’s on their side.

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    That’s a lot of hard to replace talent. I don’t think anyone I’m the military will let him go through with this. How anyone can support this mong is beyond me.

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      He’s already working on purging military leadership so only Trump loyalists are left. If he orders a purge of trans people it will happen. Everyone saying “he can’t really do this” is still in living in hopeful dreams. Reality is that Trump will be in charge and surrounded by fanatical loyalists running all branches of government and the military. The dangers for his chosen scapegoats are real.

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      Not something anyone can stop if he chooses to go through with it. He is the commander of the armed forces. He can make sweeping policies like this that fuck up everything.

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        Okay so I don’t really expect resistance, but here’s the thing:

        They don’t have to obey. Laws and traditions are not magic. We all know rationally what’s coming, even if we haven’t really grasped the magnitude of it emotionally.

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    They can form their own Blackwater and charge gazilion dollars to operate in the same places as they were before

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      You joke but that’s why they want to fuck up the military. PMCs lobby too and they’re willing to do everything in a war from flying the planes to being grunts on the line.

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    The ideological score here must be worth more to Trump than the strength of America’s military, already hurting for new recruits, which says a lot and frankly scares the fuck out of me

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      Well, the problem is you’re thinking logically. It’s an ideological victory on both ends for him.

      Conservatives view this as strengthening the military, not weakening it.

      The actual strength of America’s Military doesn’t matter because they don’t have hostile nations on their borders. So when America’s Military loses some of their force projection ability it can be used to say we’re turning towards isolationist policy, which is also a win for him. (From the Putin angle and from the Conservative one)

      And, again, if you point out that this move will weaken the American Military, well what are you? A terrorist who doesn’t believe they have the greatest, manliest fighting force ever seen?

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      Weakening the USA’s defenses seems to be a consistent theme with Trump.

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        I think this signals the beginning of a very tough era for trans people more than it does anything about national security. But we shall see

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      He did it during his first administration. I was planning on joining the Navy and becoming a doctor at the time.

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      It’ll happen. Three minutes later, they’ll discover what a bad idea it is to kick people out of the army in the middle of a recruiting shortage. Nothing will be learned and they’ll skip along to the next bad idea.

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        He’s enjoyed thirty years of relative peace and serenity in a country that doesn’t usually bomb itself that often.