• TWeaK
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    10 小时前

    I didn’t just read your post article, I read the article linked within it (which is what you’re actually quoting here - maybe you should have posted that article?).

    Based on the materials BND agents found and analyzed, they used a ‘Probability Index’ to measure the reliability of information, which determined the lab-leak theory was ‘probable’ with an ‘80 to 95 percent’ certainty.

    So we’re taking the word of a foreign spy agency cosplaying as academic researchers?

    Actual scientific research and probability assessment points to Covid 19 being much more likely to be a zoonotic transfer from the Wuhan wet market. We can’t rule out a lab leak, but neither can you rule out a wet market - and yet that’s exactly what you’re trying to do.

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    Additionally, uncovered materials revealed Chinese scientists had ‘an unusually large amount of knowledge about the supposedly novel virus available at an unusually early stage.’

    Are intentionally misleading. Of course China had enhanced knowledge of the virus - it originated there. It is also widely known that China did not publish most of the information they had, and only selectively released a very limited amount of data to the public.

    China took tons of samples from the wet market, hyped their own paper that was going to claim proof it wasn’t from the wet market, but only released data they thought wouldn’t prove it did. However, researchers managed to glean significant indication that it did come from the wet market based on the limited data available. It wasn’t the best indication, because the type of data that would show that was withheld by China, but it was still strong enough that they wrote a paper on it. The Chinese paper remains unpublished, along with its data. The data China did release on public servers, the stuff used in the paper above, was promptly removed from Chinese servers as soon as the researchers started asking them about it.

    China have done what they can to cover up the fact that it came from the wet market. China’s official stance is that it didn’t come from China at all.

    This here is and has always been nothing but a political witch hunt from the extremist far right, exploiting China’s lies and molding them into your own.

    • Donald J. MuskOPM
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      10 小时前

      So just to be clear, you think that it came from wet market and didn’t leak from a lab, right? You do not think the virus leaked from a lab. That it was just a natural thing that happened in the wet market, then swept the world from there. Right? Just wanna be clear…

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        10 小时前

        Yes, as per the paper I linked in my comment above. Also, as per every other similar respiratory virus that has had threat of turning into an epidemic, they all involve zoonotic transmission.

        You really think this was some unique and special thing that never ever happens in nature?

        • Donald J. MuskOPM
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          9 小时前

          I just wanted to make sure I was clear on where you stand. Because it seems more and more people are now open to it being released from lab. I think that if it weren’t so politically hot, we’d have more clear answers.

          I lean towards it being leaked from the lab. You put way more trust in China than I do. lol

          But I do think we’ll find out eventually. I’m patient. I’m fine waiting for proof either way. :)