## Hey everyone We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee [http://lemm.ee]
will be shutting down on June 30, 2025. ### What you need to know As of now: -
New user registrations are disabled - Creating new communities is disabled What
you should do: - You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings
[https://lemm.ee/settings] to take them with you to another instance. - If
you’re moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee
[http://lemm.ee] profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be
visible from other instances even after we go offline. - Alternatively, if you
want to delete your lemm.ee [http://lemm.ee] profile, now is the best time to do
it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline. - If you’re one of
the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it
(Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover
funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep
things running without any more support. Because of how Lemmy is built,
everything posted on lemm.ee [http://lemm.ee] will still be accessible from
other instances, even after we go offline. ## Why this is happening The key
reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the
place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout,
and finding replacements hasn’t worked out. The sad reality is that while there
are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to
attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project.
Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this
takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be
kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join. — We know this
sucks. We’re genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who
spent time here and helped make it better. – lemm.ee [http://lemm.ee] team
The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.
I’ve noticed this a ton over the last two or three months. Lemmy has become so much more negative than it was when I joined. It’s a real bummer. I can’t even imagine trying to be a mod or an admin.
Based on the uptick in “I was banned from Reddit” posts, I’m thinking that we’re getting a lot more users that were banned for good reason from Reddit. Looks like Reddit has also stepped up their game in their ability to keep those users off their platform.
i visited the sub for shadowbans occasionally, i noticed alot of them were getting banned for no reason at all, so theres that to keep in mind, as long with the purges.
and then you got the ones that are the problematic ones: they are banning me because of my opinion, you know kinda which way they lean on the spectrum.
reddit also bans very indiscriminately as of the last few months, to cull thier numbers its intentional.
And at least the average Lemmy user isn’t a complete fucking idiot.
I remember the early days of reddit, when we would make fun of the kids over at /r/SummerReddit every June. But then those kids grew up, took over the website, and now /r/SummerReddit is all of reddit.
I remember discovering Digg first and then reddit, and noticing how on reddit, back when it was Digg’s less glamorous knockoff, people didn’t comment unless they really knew what they were talking about. It was a pretty sensible and erudite site for a while. Then Digg nuked itself and reddit was forever changed.
you wouldnt get randomly banned here as you would on reddit, which i found out from the shadowban sub, even looking at your account wrong can trigger a ban.
Yeah I was bored the other day and opened up a niche reddit community and I was just floored at how positive everyone was versus the same community here. But I digress I imagine it’s going to be phases and I’ll continue to try and be positive.
I think that is just an effect of growing, or at least not shrinking and sticking around. There is ni point in spaming somewhere where there are no active users.
I don’t know if it was that short term, but I’ve always been rather concerned with the sharp degree of hostility and even outright hatred that seems to be tacitly accepted or encouraged.
I mean if you’re someone new and then inundated with terrible news every day because you’re still getting the hang of moderating your feed by yourself, you’re bound to carry negative attitude everywhere else.
reddit can, have been, and will continue to be angry right leaning, and here it’s the opposite. I get it, there are matters worth being angry about. but surrounding yourself with it just makes it pointless
My instance constantly gets attacked for being a “pro genocide nazi instance”. Which totally is not the case, but admins and mods are trying to ensure that no content is posted that is illegal where they live. And local rules here are also quite sensible.
How often do those laws actually get enforced, especially for small online communities who are against genocide? Like I understand not wanting to run afoul of the law, even if the law is immoral, but is it a realistic risk?
Difficult question. I think it’s realistic. Hate speech laws are enforced against individuals on a regular basis. If a German instance tolerated illegal content, then I expect the instance would sooner or later be involved in a prosecution. The prosecution would be against the user, though. The instance would only have to provide data to police. I’m not sure at what point the instance owners themselves would be found to violate these laws.
Apart from that, the instance is required to remove illegal content per the DSA. I think it’s realistic to expect that a prosecution would lead to a closer look at the instance.
First of all, telling admins that they should break the law and face legal risks and fines because you want it is exactly what the Lemm.ee admins are talking about. Burning out, problems with replacements and so on. And second: We are talking about content in the style of “Israel has to die, kill all the jews” and yes, people get prosecuted for that. And you really do not want stuff like that on your instance, even if your country allows it
I’ve noticed this a ton over the last two or three months. Lemmy has become so much more negative than it was when I joined. It’s a real bummer. I can’t even imagine trying to be a mod or an admin.
Based on the uptick in “I was banned from Reddit” posts, I’m thinking that we’re getting a lot more users that were banned for good reason from Reddit. Looks like Reddit has also stepped up their game in their ability to keep those users off their platform.
i visited the sub for shadowbans occasionally, i noticed alot of them were getting banned for no reason at all, so theres that to keep in mind, as long with the purges.
and then you got the ones that are the problematic ones: they are banning me because of my opinion, you know kinda which way they lean on the spectrum.
reddit also bans very indiscriminately as of the last few months, to cull thier numbers its intentional.
Oh that’s an interesting thought that I hadn’t had.
Hopefully we aren’t becoming the containment board.
coincides with the ban purges of reddit of recently.
agreed. the honeymoon period post-reddit-exodus was nice but this place is just like everywhere else now.
It’s still quite a lot nicer than reddit, even if it has its share of unpleasant characters. Whenever I read a reddit thread I am glad Lemmy exists.
And at least the average Lemmy user isn’t a complete fucking idiot.
I remember the early days of reddit, when we would make fun of the kids over at /r/SummerReddit every June. But then those kids grew up, took over the website, and now /r/SummerReddit is all of reddit.
Please, allow myself to introduce… Myself.
Hi. My name is TachyonTele.
I remember discovering Digg first and then reddit, and noticing how on reddit, back when it was Digg’s less glamorous knockoff, people didn’t comment unless they really knew what they were talking about. It was a pretty sensible and erudite site for a while. Then Digg nuked itself and reddit was forever changed.
I was there! Started on Digg after Kevin Rose mentioned it on The Screensavers (TechTV), joined reddit shorty after.
2006-2009 was peak reddit. Then after digg’s suicide, it was the beginning of the end.
And now he’s is trying to bring it back. I wish him the best of luck. Don’t fuck it up this time, Kevin.
It’s the normal amount of suck that is inherent and not the turbo suck that corpos intentionally cultivate for profit
Fascinating how quickly you can forget the actual abuse when thinking about an abusive ex.
you wouldnt get randomly banned here as you would on reddit, which i found out from the shadowban sub, even looking at your account wrong can trigger a ban.
Yeah I was bored the other day and opened up a niche reddit community and I was just floored at how positive everyone was versus the same community here. But I digress I imagine it’s going to be phases and I’ll continue to try and be positive.
name the communities lol
I think that is just an effect of growing, or at least not shrinking and sticking around. There is ni point in spaming somewhere where there are no active users.
I don’t know if it was that short term, but I’ve always been rather concerned with the sharp degree of hostility and even outright hatred that seems to be tacitly accepted or encouraged.
I mean if you’re someone new and then inundated with terrible news every day because you’re still getting the hang of moderating your feed by yourself, you’re bound to carry negative attitude everywhere else.
reddit can, have been, and will continue to be angry right leaning, and here it’s the opposite. I get it, there are matters worth being angry about. but surrounding yourself with it just makes it pointless
My instance constantly gets attacked for being a “pro genocide nazi instance”. Which totally is not the case, but admins and mods are trying to ensure that no content is posted that is illegal where they live. And local rules here are also quite sensible.
How often do those laws actually get enforced, especially for small online communities who are against genocide? Like I understand not wanting to run afoul of the law, even if the law is immoral, but is it a realistic risk?
Difficult question. I think it’s realistic. Hate speech laws are enforced against individuals on a regular basis. If a German instance tolerated illegal content, then I expect the instance would sooner or later be involved in a prosecution. The prosecution would be against the user, though. The instance would only have to provide data to police. I’m not sure at what point the instance owners themselves would be found to violate these laws.
Apart from that, the instance is required to remove illegal content per the DSA. I think it’s realistic to expect that a prosecution would lead to a closer look at the instance.
First of all, telling admins that they should break the law and face legal risks and fines because you want it is exactly what the Lemm.ee admins are talking about. Burning out, problems with replacements and so on. And second: We are talking about content in the style of “Israel has to die, kill all the jews” and yes, people get prosecuted for that. And you really do not want stuff like that on your instance, even if your country allows it