• Donald Musk
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    Nazi’s do that shit proudly

    I know. I am seeing them do it on Teslas around the country right now in the news. And Lemmy is celebrating it. Seems the the Democrats true colors are coming out: they are nazis and fascists.

    it’s still protected by free speech in this country

    Not when you’re vandalizing other people’s property. Here, let me spray paint “Democrat Party Sucks” on your car and let’s have a discussion about if that’s protected by free speech.

    Context matters in our court system.

    Yep, as the “protesters” are gonna find out. lmao

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      You’re making idiotic logic jumps just justify your puny view of the law. Let me make child-like in its simplicity so you can grasp these concepts:

      • Hate Crime = Crime
      • Vandalism = Crime
      • Free Speech = Not Crime

      Vandalism + Free Speech != Hate Crime

      Because you foolishly follow all the idiotic things Pam Bondi says to try and protect Elon’s feelings doesn’t mean its the law. Nobody is saying spray painting cars ISN’T a fucking crime, you just want to go that route to make your other points seems less dumb. A Swastika itself is not a hate crime unless it’s deployed AS part of a hate crime.

      Donald Trump having people tortured because they are LEGAL US Residents but are not HA-WYTE on the other hand is for sure a hate crime because it’s motivated completely based on race as the law sees it. It’s quite transparent, and even children understand the difference between vandalism and hate crimes.

      Get it now?

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        You think vandalism is free speech?! Good luck with that in the courts. lmao

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            10 days ago

            K! And good luck to the caught vandals when they go to court and claim “free speech!” lmao

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              Again…you seem to be mistaken about this concept, but nobody is saying that VANDALISM isn’t a crime. Where in the hell are you NOT getting this? I am absolutely so confounded.

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                nobody is saying that VANDALISM isn’t a crime.

                So then people marking up Teslas and carving and spray painting nazi imagary is a crime. Correct?

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                  Vandalism IS a crime. It is NOT a Hate Crime. They are prosecuted and sentenced radically differently, which is why Pam Bondi is an absolute moron for trying to re-classify it as such.

                  Judges still have classifications, prosecutorial guidelines and sentencing guidelines on the books to follow, and they can’t just willy-nilly change those at her discretion. That’s not how the law works, thank god.

                  The same way you can’t prosecute Petty Theft as Murder, you can’t suddenly decide vandalism of a car is any thing but vandalism of a car, especially escalating the brand based on your own bias.

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                    10 days ago

                    painting a swastika on someones property is a hate crime. So is Lemmy pro-Nazi now?!