• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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    6 months ago

    Part of accepting someone is accepting their pronouns since it’s part of their identity.

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        6 months ago

        Maybe they don’t care if you take them seriously, they just care if you respect them enough to just call them what they want to be called.

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        6 months ago

        I call people by whatever pronouns they like out of he/him, she/her, or they/them. French pronouns, no.

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        6 months ago

        Neo pronouns are essentially just another experimental project to combat some of the linguistic issues behind using they/them singular pronouns. Consider you use singular they/them pronouns for people you don’t know ("I found someone’s cell phone, I will try to get it back to them. ") or some people get confused if their attention wanders and someone starts talking about a non-binary person whether you are talking about a single person or not.

        Some non-binary people find they/them pronoun options to be dehumanizing or dislike the linguistic effect problem… However there isn’t a cultural concensus on a strictly singluar non-gendered pronoun. There are a handful of established neo-pronouns but they are akin to regional varieties born out of very specific communities but non-binary people are not a monolith. Even inside our communities there’s a lot of variation. The attempt to try and normalize new language across is board isn’t high on a lot of people’s priority list who are fine with the path of least resistance because they are dealing with a lot right now. People who use neo pronouns know it’s a big cognitive ask but they are doing it for the same reasons any trans person who asks for an accommodation - a quality of life issue. Something about the status quo is actively not working for them. It’s not based out of a desire for attention or a way to feel unique - quite the opposite usually it is nerve wracking asking for an accommodation knowing people will likely treat you as lesser for asking.

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            6 months ago

            So just because you have what you need out of an accommodation you are going to turn around and put up barriers for other people who are not served by your level of accommodation?

            If they/them pronouns work for you that’s awesome. It’s in a way another path of least resistance… But there are some people do hope for more from their nearest and dearest. Generally speaking they like all of us take what we can get from the people who legitimately wish them well.

            Turning around and dumping on someone else’s accommodation the same way others dump on yours so you get to feel “respectable” is pretty classless. Maybe take a step back and realize the company you keep when you act like that.

      • jorp@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        What if it were a new national identity? Do you call people Taiwanese? Why not just Chinese?