What happens in November is up to Biden – it will not be the fault of the protest voter if Trump is elected. The questions remain: does the Democratic party fear Trump as much as we do? And does it value its voters enough to shift away from an approach to the onslaught in Gaza that a majority of Democratic voters are against?

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    Uncommitted votes don’t help Trump. You know this, you’re just too much of a pussy to say you wanna murder more Palestinians

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      Wow, that is an incredibly unhinged thing to say to somebody.

      I think if you are taking it on yourself to be a steward of the Palestinian people, you have to act respectable.

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        You get to talk about respectability when you stop supporting genocide. If you don’t support genocide, why oppose voting uncommitted?

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          Let me know when your behavior has helped a single Palestinian person.

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            Honest question, has speaking respectfully and calmly helped a single Palestinian person? It’s not like the US was listening until the uncommitted votes and the college protests.

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              Which specific real world protestors are acting as unhinged as this person was? From what I have seen, this behavior is exclusively among online communists, not actual pro-palestine protestors.

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                  Why are you defending a random mentally unhinged person on the internet and equating their behavior with the movement as a whole?

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                    Why do you assume I’m defending them? All I’m saying is you’re wrong too, nothing about talking nice got us anywhere, and you must know this implicitly because you refuse to answer my questions with anything but your own detracting questions. Reread my first comment, and try answering it instead of making the conversation about something else.

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            Why oppose voting uncommitted other than because you support genocide? Legit give me one reason in the entire world to oppose voting uncommitted other than because you want to send the message to Biden that Palestinian genocide doesn’t matter/is good

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              Why behave this way towards other people unless you support genocide?

              You aren’t doing a damn thing to help Palestinians, you are just treating random people terribly and feeling good about yourself because of it.

              I

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                Hey look, it’s a liberal genocide supporter deflecting rather than owning their shit views!

                Why bother being quiet about it? Why not say it? Or deny it if it’s not the case? Because you know that everyone else will know you’re a piece of shit if you’re too honest about it. Fuck off zionist, know that you’re not at all sly about how much you love dead Palestinian children

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                  Again, I advise psychiatry because nothing you have stated towards me is based in reality.

                  You aren’t helping Palestinians, you haven’t helped them and in truth, I don’t think you are capable of helping them, which explains the impotent rage directed at random people on the internet.

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                    At least I’m not actively angling for them to get mass murdered like you. I’ve got a psychiatrist, I bet you’d benefit from one who can help you feel even the tiniest shred of empathy towards genocide victims and not want to kill even more

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      You have literally painted yourself into a self-destructive corner with your moronic strawman.

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        What other reason is there to not vote uncommitted? These are democratic primaries, trump gets nothing here. Give me one good reason not to take this free opportunity to let biden know genocide isn’t ok

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          First past the post voting, two party system means that mathematically, you are placing half a vote on Biden and half a vote on Trump by abstaining democracy doesn’t exist in the United States. Sorry you had to learn it this way. It’s also on its way out over here in Canada, don’t worry we’re catching up :(

          Alternatively you could vote for whoever has the best platform LOCALLY in YOUR country, whoever that may be, and send angry letters letting them know that while you support some of their policies, you are uncomfortable with the president’s lack of support for a cause you consider just.

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      You get the choice of less murder or more murder, and your choice is “eh, doesn’t matter to me”.

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          Primarying an incumbent is the surest way to fail…c’mon man that’s poly sci 101

          Are you trying to be laughed at cuz you’re being laughed at.

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            How can that lead to failure? He’s literally the incumbent, there’s basically no chance of him losing, and if he does that’s a clear sign someone else would have more support. Tf is your point? Rhetorical question, I know your point: you want more Palestinians to die but you’re too smart to say it out loud. Vote uncommitted motherfucker, there’s no reason not to other than to be complicit in genocide

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      They do actually. Jesus get a brain. Or take 5 min and research fptp voting