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- usnews@lemy.lol
- worldnews@lemmy.ml
Iran informed the US that it would refrain from responding to the airstrike in which senior Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) commanders were killed in Damascus if a ceasefire in Gaza is reached, Jadeh Iran reported on Sunday.
The news outlet cited an anonymous Arab diplomatic source, saying the source spoke to the news outlet two days ago. The source added that “If America succeeds in containing the situation, it will be a great success for the Biden administration and we can build on that.”
Viking, this is hilarious coming from you. Not once have I seen your comments backed by sources. But maybe one day we’ll see some of the grounding for your justified beliefs.
You haven’t checked very thoroughly, then, as I often provide sources, always when asked to. Give me an example and I’ll supply a source.
How about you provide a source for the ridiculous percentage I quoted you throwing out? Other than your ass, of course.
Viking, ive seen you around and I’m not going to block you. This community is already tiny. If I ever post a claim without any backing --apart from the one above which is obviously hyperbole-- I invite you to call me out. I don’t ever want to be an agent of misinformation. But let’s have a factual discussion when that happens ok ? 🥺🙂
Well allow me to comply with your request, then:
Is categorically and ridiculously false.
Not only are the vast majority of the bombs that they’re dropping American made, they’re also receiving tens of billions in monetary aid from the US.
As for the next biggest supplier, Germany, they send an annual total if $300m to Israel, only $20m of which are offensive weapons. Contrast that with the US’ annual total of $3.8b, most of which are offensive weapons and you can’t in good faith argue that the US halting shipments wouldn’t have a significant impact.
And that’s not even considering the fact that many countries, likely including Germany are at the very least partly supporting Israel out of fear of angering the US, which could result in dire consequences.
If the US washed its hands of the genocidal apartheid regime, you would definitely see many other countries follow their lead.
So you’re saying that Israel does not have the ability to shop around? And you’re also very confident that their capital is limited. Can you substantiate this?
Also, lots of claims being made here as matter of fact:
I could go on. Can we do one point at a time instead of the gish gallop?
Also, where are your sources?
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SOURCES: WHERE ARE THEY???
No, I’m saying that there’s a limited number of countries willing to knowingly supply weapons to be used to commit genocide and that there’s none willing or even ABLE to match the current supply from the US.
well yeah, massacring a people is EXTREMELY expensive when you don’t have a sugardaddy country like the US to pay for it.
You mean disprove YOUR assertion, based on no data you’ve shared, that Israel has more than enough weapons and cash to keep the genocide going in perpetuity without US assistance.
No, I can not, since I am not privy to the details of your imagination. I’m just going by what is by far the most likely.
I’ve provided sources:
https://lemmy.world/comment/9198378
I don’t know if you’re doing this intentionally, but you’re sliding in a lot of weasely language:
So, to circle back to the initial claim: stopping US sales of weapons wouldn’t change much, would it? Realistically speaking. The cash aid has liminted effect, since they have enough capital anyway. Germany has nothing to do with it, since they can still shop around (despite your imaginary 'limited list of countries that will supply weapons"). They’ve already purchased enough arsenal to turn the middle east into glass (see link above).
So what exactly are we arguing at this point? Are you just being a contrarian for the sake of it?
You’ve only demonstrated that they have a lot of NUCLEAR weapons stockpiled. Aka the one kind of weapon they CAN’T use because then they wouldn’t be able to use the newly stolen land for settlements and upscale oceanfront real estate projects, might not even be able to extract the offshore gas they’re also eager to steal. So nukes are useless.
As for your claims that breaking international rules and norms not decreasing the number of countries that will do business with you, allow me to remind you of Apartheid South Africa and present day Russia.
Not having the billions worth of weapons and cash from the US OR the support of other countries strongarmed into it by the US would make it MUCH harder for Israel to carry on their genocide, if not downright impossible.
Obviously not, but since you’ve now proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you’re impervious to reason when it comes to your pet theory of an omnipotent Israel, I’m gonna drop it now. Have a nice day.
There are three links in that post. Only one deals with nuclear weapons. If you can’t be bothered to read what others post, then you’re just here for grandstanding and to be a contrarian. The third link specifically deals with this. Israel can wipe out Gaza already ten times over. There is no doubt they can’t.
Here is an example of talking with sources.
https://lemmy.world/comment/9198378